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Posted: 6/29/2009 7:42:46 PM EDT
| I'm very new to reloading and decided to try it out with a Lee Classic Loader for Rem. .223. Everything went well until I tried to load one in the chamber...it made it about one inch in and stopped. I assumed the Sizing Die with the kit would resize it to factory specs. I was using once fired brass from precissionbrass.....I measured the reloads compared to a factory new round and they are about .001 larger. So...does this Classic Loader only work with new brass, or once fired brass from my rifle? Anyone have experience with the fossil of reloaders:) |
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You may NOT have set the re-size die correctly.
Aloha, Mark PS.........Chambering Problems For those who don't know about it.........IMHO…………"the secret" to re-loading a bottle neck cartridge for a gas gun is to gauge your re-sized brass. There are many different brands and ways to gauge your re-loads. Examples…….. http://www.sinclairintl.com/prod_detail_list/Case-Gauges-Headspace-Tools This is how I do mine. 6) I use a single station press (RCBS Rock Chucker). You could use a progressive Dillon IF you wanted to. It's a personal choice. But, with whatever press you choose, consider shell plate/shell holder and/or press "flex.” I use a regular FL size/de-capper die, NOT the small base dies. To begin, lube your cases. Then, FL size and de-cap, 1 or 2 cases for a test. Gauge the re-sized case(s), to confirm that the "correct re-size" has been achieved. I use a Forster Products case gauge (the Wilson or Dillon case gauges are also popular choices). Insert a case into the case gauge. The headstamped end of the case, needs to be at or between the high and low cuts on the gauge, to pass. This checks for the "correct re-size." While the other end, is used to check if the case will need to be trimmed (a job for later on). IF, it’s not the “correct re-size,” your die setting will need adjustment. Lower the ram and simply screw the die in or out a little. Don’t forget about the lock nut. Then, re-size another couple of test cases and check your work again. Repeat the test and adjustments, as needed. When you're satisfied that your test cases are properly re-sized, do the entire lot (remember to test some cases throughout the run). What you do, or don't do, is up to you. And...........Die Adjustments http://www.chuckhawks.com/adjust_reloading_dies.htm Here is how to adjust the resizing die to full length resize cases. First, run the ram to the top of the reloading press stroke with the proper shell holder installed. Second, screw the resizing die into the press until it stops against the elevated shell holder. Third, all play must be removed from the system. To do this, lower the ram and turn the die 1/8 to 1/4 turn farther into the press. Check the adjustment by returning the shell holder to the top of its stroke––you should feel the press cam over center. Now set the large lock ring and your die is adjusted to properly full length resize cases.
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| If your referring to the Lee classic loader, the one you use the hammer with, it only re-sizes the neck, which, from my understanding, is only good for bolt rifles with brass fire-formed to that rifle. For auto loaders like the AR platform you need to use a full-sizer die every time, especially with once fired brass. |
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There you go........
MY MISTAKE. He did say Lee Classic Loader as in........... http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1246340023.931=/html/catalog/cleeloader.html Not the LEE Classic Cast Press.........as I had thought........... http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1246340023.931=/html/catalog/classic.html ______________ Yes, your Lee Loader is NOT RECOMMENDED with semi-auto firearms as the cases should be full length resized for best results. From the Hornady website: …....Case lengthening produced by repeated full length resizing will shorten case life. Continuous working of the brass between chamber and die stretches it, eventually producing cracks in the case and finally complete head separation. Hot loads, even if necks are trimmed as called for, speed up this process. If optimum accuracy and prolonged case life are important to the reloader, our advice is to neck size alone whenever practical. There are of course, situations in which it is advisable to full length resize. Shooters reloading for pumps, lever-actions, and autoloaders must do so to facilitate reliable chambering. A lever-action, for example, doesn't have the powerful camming action of a bolt action and may not easily chamber cases larger than factory standards. Shooters who reload cases from one bolt action for another will also find it necessary to full length resize. Even shooters reloading for one bolt action will occasionally need to full length resize for the sake of easy clearance; over repeated firings the case may conform more and more tightly to chamber dimensions, making chambering and extraction increasingly difficult. My red added for emphasis. Aloha, Mark |
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