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Originally Posted By lew: I've worked in the industry, but I have no inside knowledge specific to RA. It looks like the demand is there and they're selling every one made, so why would they lower the price? Yeah, I'd love to see them at $1500, but I'd rather the company stay viable for a long time to come. They've been around awhile, so there might be something to that. The ones on Gunjoker going for cheap are mostly older models. Speaking of GB, I know a lot of folks on the web and in-person who won't bother with that site no matter how good a deal is, myself included. In other words: I don't find it very representative. I won't complain: I've sunk a lot more than 2 grand into individual AR-10s only to have that love affair quickly wither.  For what I paid for the XCR-M, it needed no dicking with out of the box; just add my optics and accessories.The market is really tough right now. No fault of RA’s but I don’t know if any gun maker is selling everything as fast as it can be made. There’s lots of promotions going on in general from RA and others which is a sign things are tough. There are 2 used XCRs with the later looking stocks on GB for $1,500 with no bids. How in the world brands like FNH are still selling $3k guns (Scar 16/17s) is beyond me. Edit: just checked gunbroker and maybe FNH isn’t selling Scars as there are 200 on there and damn near none of them have bids. |
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Originally Posted By Citizen904: The market is really tough right now. No fault of RA’s but I don’t know if any gun maker is selling everything as fast as it can be made. There’s lots of promotions going on in general from RA and others which is a sign things are tough. There are 2 used XCRs with the later looking stocks on GB for $1,500 with no bids. How in the world brands like FNH are still selling $3k guns (Scar 16/17s) is beyond me. Edit: just checked gunbroker and maybe FNH isn’t selling Scars as there are 200 on there and damn near none of them have bids. I've never figured out how SCARs sell at all. Expensive as hell and very little bang for that buck. The stock alone is downright offensive as it breaks if you look at it wrong. That said, defo a tough market for everyone. I hope all these product lines can be maintained as more options are better for you and I. One thing RA has going for their business model: every damned part is available on their site. Very few competing models can claim that. Since I'm a spare parts whore, parts availability was a huge determining factor. |
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FYI: Robinson's running 10% off through the rest of the day. I may have totally accidentally put the 12" XCR-L pistol I was strongly considering on a payment plan since I don't "need" it right away. 
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Originally Posted By stevelish: https://robinsonarmament.com/product/xcr-l-standard-keymod-556-16-1-9/ I looked at that. It's a good deal if it fits one's specs. The 1:9 barrel on my current -L is super accurate and has no issue with 77 gr. bullets. |
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Originally Posted By stevelish: https://robinsonarmament.com/product/xcr-l-standard-keymod-556-16-1-9/ That seems like a deal that reasonably reflects the reality of the market. Compared to a Scar at $3k+ that’s an extreme value. I hope they have a big stockpile of keymod uppers to keep that deal going. |
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Originally Posted By Citizen904: That seems like a deal that reasonably reflects the reality of the market. Compared to a Scar at $3k+ that’s an extreme value. I hope they have a big stockpile of keymod uppers to keep that deal going. Originally Posted By Citizen904: Originally Posted By stevelish: https://robinsonarmament.com/product/xcr-l-standard-keymod-556-16-1-9/ That seems like a deal that reasonably reflects the reality of the market. Compared to a Scar at $3k+ that’s an extreme value. I hope they have a big stockpile of keymod uppers to keep that deal going. Given that they offer Keymod as a currently available option, I think it's the 1:9 barrels that are the limiting factor. I'd wager they only have a few old stock rifles like that on-hand. |
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Mine should be coming Monday, but I opened instagram today and saw Alex Robinson holding it! Unless somebody else ordered the exact same rifle as me this should be mine Attached File In the description it says this one comes in at 8.5 pounds |
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That dark brown (Patriot Brown?) looks nice with the black parts. Just got the last part for mine: a Magpul RSA so I could put my BFG sling on. |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: It’s Vortex Bronze (H-293), im a big fan of how it looks with the black as well Originally Posted By Jkees: Originally Posted By lew: That dark brown (Patrio Brown?) looks nice with the black parts. Just got the last part for mine: a Magpul RSA so I could put my BFG sling on. It’s Vortex Bronze (H-293), im a big fan of how it looks with the black as well Noted, for potential future use, though FDE rocks around here. You putting a can on it? |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: Yeah I got a huxwrx 7.62 TI, but I may dedicate something else to it down the line, flow through is not as important on this as direct impingement Originally Posted By Jkees: Originally Posted By lew: Noted, for potential future use, though FDE rocks around here. You putting a can on it? Yeah I got a huxwrx 7.62 TI, but I may dedicate something else to it down the line, flow through is not as important on this as direct impingement Not at all. Both of mine work great with traditional baffle cans. Smooth-shooting and negligible gas aft of the action. One of the reasons I'm happy to move away from ARs. |
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Originally Posted By lew: Not all. Both of mine work great with traditional baffle cans. Smooth-shooting and negligible gas aft of the action. One of the reasons I'm happy to move away from ARs. I got the flow-through because in a welding shop environment, reducing fumes is worth the extra money, but like you said its really not an issue with XCR’s. I would probably go towards a OCL or YHM just to get something cheap and decent. |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: I got the flow-through because in a welding shop environment, reducing fumes is worth the extra money, but like you said its really not an issue with XCR’s. I would probably go towards a OCL or YHM just to get something cheap and decent. That's an interesting use-case. Rex Silentium's another I've looked at, but I'm already invested in Thunder Beast CB mounts. |
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Attached File Attached File Cant wait to take it out! @lew |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556601/IMG_7830_jpeg-3546496.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556601/IMG_7833_jpeg-3546497.JPG Cant wait to take it out! @lew @Jkees Lookin' sharp. I know you just got it, but how do you like the Ergo Grip on it? I don't like the rubbery texture on the K2 grip. I should take the one off my .22 AR and see how I like it... |
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Originally Posted By lew: @Jkees Lookin' sharp. I know you just got it, but how do you like the Ergo Grip on it? I don't like the rubbery texture on the K2 grip. I should take the one off my .22 AR and see how I like it... I like it, I find with the xcr since the fire selector is much lower comparatively to the grip than an ar-15, picking a grip without a beavertail is more comfortable for the selector. I never used this specific ergo grip before but it feels nice thus far. ETA: I also notice the trigger on this XCR-M feels better than my -L, this one is incredible. |
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I posted a photo of my rifle out on instagram and robinson arms told me they are sending me a shirt if I give them permission to post it. I’m glad they are because I was a bit sad to find they don't deliver the rifle with any stickers lol. Also weighs in 12.5 lbs fully configured unloaded with scope and can, and balances at the leading edge of the magwell unloaded. For a .308 gas gun i’m very happy with that! Attached File |
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Mine's 13 lbs. with TBAC can and 20 rounds. I don't have any trouble holding it offhand. Still lighter than my similarly-configured AR-10's, and recoil is way less. Hell, all of my 5.56 ARs are heavier than 9 lbs. Piston > direct impingement/internal piston |
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I whiffed the 5th one because of mirage but pretty great group for Swiss 150 gr ball ammo. Very happy with this gun! I also tried it with some 168 gr hornady bthp, but that was about 1.5 moa. Good thing it shoots cheap! 100 yard walled range Attached File |
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@bfoosh06 @TREETOP @Melvin_Johnson May we please have the thread title altered to "Robinson Armament XCR-L and XCR-M Discussion Thread"? |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: I whiffed the 5th one because of mirage but pretty great group for Swiss 150 gr ball ammo. Very happy with this gun! I also tried it with some 168 gr hornady bthp, but that was about 1.5 moa. Good thing it shoots cheap! 100 yard walled range https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556601/IMG_7863_jpeg-3547682.JPG @Jkees What's the headstamp on that ammo? If it likes ~150, try Prvi 155 HPBT. My former M1A (NM sights and red dot) would shoot MOA with it and my current Fulton-receiver-ed (standard sights) M14 does 1.25 MOA. |
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| These -Ms sound like they’re in the neighborhood of 11-11.5 lbs out of the box, correct? How much meat is on the bolt lugs compared to a comparable DI gun? How well does the AGB choke down gas for a can on a -M….can it be reduced to the point that it won’t run unsuppressed? |
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Originally Posted By lew: @Jkees What's the headstamp on that ammo? If it likes ~150, try Prvi 155 HPBT. My former M1A (NM sights and red dot) would shoot MOA with it and my current Fulton-receiver-ed (standard sights) M14 does 1.25 MOA. It’s saltech stuff 7.62 ST 23 |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: These -Ms sound like they’re in the neighborhood of 11-11.5 lbs out of the box, correct? How much meat is on the bolt lugs compared to a comparable DI gun? How well does the AGB choke down gas for a can on a -M….can it be reduced to the point that it won’t run unsuppressed? @1168RGR I didn't weigh mine before I put everything on it, but its probably closer to 9lbs dry for the setup I did (mini frame, light 16” .308 barrel) The bolt lugs are very beefy compared to an ar style boltface. Much closer to an AK in this regard. Even the smallest lug is about 1/4” wide. And as far as gassing, I have a flow through can so I cannot answer this one well, but mine with the can stopped running on setting 2 with the 168 gr bthp Attached File Attached File |
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I forgot to weigh mine before I threw my crap on, but I'd guess 9.5 lbs. out of the box (bag), which tracks with the individual item weights. Balances nicely and it's very slim. Haven't tried shutting the gas off completely. Mine runs at 3 with a traditional baffle can. |
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| Robinson makes it easy to order parts. Just got a bunch of spares in today. Some XCR-M parts are not on the web site, but just email them with what you need if it's not listed. |
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Got that video on the list. After some training this morning, I took some time to put my XCR-L in 5.56 on paper after I put the 2-10x scope back on. Target was only ten yards as I didn't feel like trudging through the mud further down range and had to get moving, but twelve rounds printed a .4" group. I need to get an ambi safety so I can have a thumb rest and eventually a piggyback red dot. Last time I had it on paper in this configuration, it gave me .7" groups at 100. |
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Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: Hope to get my XCRM 8.6 sbr back from cerakote back this week. Multicam That's gonna look hot. |
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| I'm trying to decide what route I want to go with the XCR-L. I'm leaning towards the 6 arc and a 300 blackout conversion. I'm really tempted to go with 338 arc but 2 semi-niche calibers (6mm arc) make me hesitant. I really don't like the twist rate with the 338 arc options. |
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Originally Posted By petronas865: I'm trying to decide what route I want to go with the XCR-L. I'm leaning towards the 6 arc and a 300 blackout conversion. I'm really tempted to go with 338 arc but 2 semi-niche calibers (6mm arc) make me hesitant. I really don't like the twist rate with the 338 arc options. If you're already setup for .300 BO, than that and 6 ARC seems like the sensible way to roll. |
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300 BO SBR. I did the cerakote minus the stock and mag.Attached File It’s pretty crappy compared to pro work but it was fun and I like it. |
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Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: 300 BO SBR. I did the cerakote minus the stock and mag.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23396/IMG_5194_jpeg-3562390.JPG It’s pretty crappy compared to pro work but it was fun and I like it. That looks fantastic in the full multicam treatment!  Sven Manticore Arms |
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Sweet. That's what I thought. |
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| Sweet! Who's stock/brace is that? 8" barrel? |
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Got some pics of my M from the cerakote place. Should have it back Saturday. Attached File Attached File |
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That looks very nice. Happy Independence Day! For those interested, sign up for Robinson' email list. They run sales periodically throughout the year. |
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They're running a sale for 10% off. Use code PATRIOT25 Ran 40 more rounds through my XCR-M yesterday. Fantastic accuracy, cases were nice and clean, and the it did its job of setting off Tannerite. 
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