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10/14/2008 8:44:59 PM EDT
getting ready to build and SBR AR.  from what i understand I need a form 1.  Is there somewhere on the internet that I can get a copy.  the ATF website is having problems and is currently not putting some of the form on it.  I called the distribution center to have one mailed to me but the lady there couldnt hardly speak english and i doubt that i will recieve one in the mail.  Its bad when they think your name is the street you live on.  thanks guys
10/14/2008 8:14:20 AM EDT
[#1]
what can you do with that.

Is getting a shorter barrel the main thing you can do?

THis is a hijack give me all your information or the girl gets it.
10/14/2008 8:38:02 AM EDT
[#2]
Pretty much.  You can put an upper with a barrel length less that 16" on an AR rifle lower.  AR pistols are not allowed to have butt stocks or forward pistol grips.  SBRs are allowed.

As to the original question.  I would try your local gun shop.  If they don't have it, I'm sure they can give you the address for the local ATF office to get one.
10/14/2008 8:40:59 AM EDT
[#3]
http://www.titleii.com/Forms.htm
10/14/2008 8:42:31 AM EDT
[#4]
I think a lot of people are considering this. I just sent off to BATF for some Form 1's, Form 4's and fingerprint cards. All I got was the cards, and a note saying the Form 1's and Form 4's were backordered.
10/14/2008 8:44:57 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
http://www.titleii.com/Forms.htm


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10/14/2008 9:39:41 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
www.titleii.com/Forms.htm


Made hot.
10/14/2008 5:04:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks timb3!!
10/14/2008 5:14:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Make sure to print it FRONT and BACK and not on two separate pages.
10/14/2008 5:31:06 PM EDT
[#9]
As the OPs question was answered I don't mind hi-jacking, where do you get the fingerprint cards?
Thanks
10/14/2008 8:04:40 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
As the OPs question was answered I don't mind hi-jacking, where do you get the fingerprint cards?
Thanks



Here's one way:

www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm

Second from the bottom.

You can also pick up FD-258s at a lot of police,sheriff offices and fill in the ORI yourself.
10/14/2008 8:23:39 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I think a lot of people are considering this. I just sent off to BATF for some Form 1's, Form 4's and fingerprint cards. All I got was the cards, and a note saying the Form 1's and Form 4's were backordered.


Good to see the ATF is on top of everything..
10/14/2008 9:05:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Rules of Fight Club SBR NFA paperwork:

1. Print the form 1 front and back on one single sheet of paper.
2. Forms are always done in duplicate.  Two forms, two signatures.
3. Start the debate about engraving before or after the paperwork.

10/15/2008 9:58:16 AM EDT
[#13]
JUST an FYI... a lot of people have said you need to specify 1 barrel length on the form.

I called ATF yesterday & my dealer/friend called his liason officer as well.  We were both told:

It is OK to list multiple barrel lengths & calibers.  What I/we did was list the intended "original barrel length" in
the BBL block on the form, listed all the calibers: .223, 7.62x39, .458, 9mm, .22 in the caliber box.  In the "additional description/data box" I listed:  Receiver caliber marked "multi"  For each of the above listed calibers each of the following accessory barrel lengths will be used: 5.5", 7.5", 9.5", 10.5", 11.5", 14.5"

The 2 separate people both told us this is OK & acceptable.  This way the form lists all the various combos I MIGHT have and should eliminate any "confusion" should a "less informed" individual examine my paperwork & choose to "hassle" me because my weapon is "not configured as registered".
10/15/2008 3:45:17 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
JUST an FYI... a lot of people have said you need to specify 1 barrel length on the form.

I called ATF yesterday & my dealer/friend called his liason officer as well.  We were both told:

It is OK to list multiple barrel lengths & calibers.  What I/we did was list the intended "original barrel length" in
the BBL block on the form, listed all the calibers: .223, 7.62x39, .458, 9mm, .22 in the caliber box.  In the "additional description/data box" I listed:  Receiver caliber marked "multi"  For each of the above listed calibers each of the following accessory barrel lengths will be used: 5.5", 7.5", 9.5", 10.5", 11.5", 14.5"

The 2 separate people both told us this is OK & acceptable.  This way the form lists all the various combos I MIGHT have and should eliminate any "confusion" should a "less informed" individual examine my paperwork & choose to "hassle" me because my weapon is "not configured as registered".


I hope this works for you.   Folks here have been rejected when they tried this.

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