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7/13/2007 5:15:10 PM EDT
OK - maybe I can't find it (I tried) - but I want to build a short barreled shotgun.  I have done the SBR with an AR and want to branch out a bit.

My question is on the paperwork, they have "submaching gun; any other weapon; short barreled rifle; machinegun; destructive device; and silencer" as options.  I plan on this having a full stock instead of pistol grip.

Does this fall under the category of SBR or something like destructive device or AOW?

Thanks.


**Update - I guess I looked too hard in the wrong thread - the answer was in general calss 3 - thanks anyway.
7/13/2007 5:20:51 PM EDT
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7/14/2007 5:47:51 AM EDT
[#2]
If you take a shotgun that has a full buttstock and shorten it the result is an SBS... manufacturing tax for a individual is $200 and any future transfers are also $200. If you take a bare FACTORY shotgun receiver OR a factory shotgun that has a pistol-grip only and shorten it the result is an AOW... manufacturing tax for a individual is $200 (allthough a Class II manufacturer can do it for free) and any future transfers are $5.
7/14/2007 6:52:04 AM EDT
[#3]
A manufacturer with a class 2 SOT can register (on a Form 2) an AOW or an SBS for $0.  He can transfer (on a Form 4) an AOW to you for $5 or an SBS to you for $200, assuming you are both in the same state.
7/14/2007 7:10:41 AM EDT
[#4]
what is the best way to convert a shotgun if the gunsmith is in another state? should I pay the 200 tax,get the stamp,and then send it to him? should I do the stamp,cut the barrell myself, then send it to him?  I would like to avoid the shotgun sitting in a classII dealer for months on end,if that is legaly possible.

                                           
7/14/2007 6:12:57 PM EDT
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Quoted:
what is the best way to convert a shotgun if the gunsmith is in another state? should I pay the 200 tax,get the stamp,and then send it to him? should I do the stamp,cut the barrell myself, then send it to him?  I would like to avoid the shotgun sitting in a classII dealer for months on end,if that is legaly possible.

                                           

Send him your shotgun and have him register it and transfer it to your local c3 and then back to you
7/16/2007 2:49:02 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
what is the best way to convert a shotgun if the gunsmith is in another state? should I pay the 200 tax,get the stamp,and then send it to him? should I do the stamp,cut the barrell myself, then send it to him?  I would like to avoid the shotgun sitting in a classII dealer for months on end,if that is legaly possible.

                                           

Send him your shotgun and have him register it and transfer it to your local c3 and then back to you



That method guarantees that the gun will be sitting at a dealer for months, while he waits for the Form 4 to be approved, since you can't take possession of it again until the form is approved.

Register it yourself, via a Form 1, and then once it comes back approved you can send the gun off for service work and the gunsmith can legally ship it right back to you.  Using this method you'll have to have your information engraved on it, instead of your SOT's info, but in exchange for this you get to hold onto the shotgun during the entire registration process.
7/16/2007 3:22:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Depending on what you plan on doing, you could do a form 1 and when you get the stamp back, buy a barrel and stick it on the gun.

That is how I did my 870.
I bought a 14" barrel from Vang Comp after I got my stamp. Takes seconds to install a barrel on an 870.

The last one I did, I did the form 1 and sent the barrel to a smith to shorten (not the receiver).
7/18/2007 1:52:29 AM EDT
[#8]
use a hacksaw and cut the barrel at a gun show. thats what I did. I did get lots of funny looks and lots of very odd comments about it being illegal and " what are you doing to that Browning" .

we filed the form 2 later that day incase you were wondering . works pretty good for a 100ish year old shotgun.



I wish I had a vid of us cutting the barrel down .
7/21/2007 12:20:24 PM EDT
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use a hacksaw and cut the barrel at a gun show. thats what I did. I did get lots of funny looks and lots of very odd comments about it being illegal and " what are you doing to that Browning" .

we filed the form 2 later that day incase you were wondering . works pretty good for a 100ish year old shotgun.

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I wish I had a vid of us cutting the barrel down .


You probably should include in your post that you have the proper FFL/SOT to manufacture NFA items, hence it not being illegal.

Of course, he could do the same thing with an approved Form 1.

But I do give you credit for the shock value.  

I plan on using a horizontal bandsaw and then chucking the barrel in my lathe once the Form 1 comes back.  Shotgun barrels are pretty simple to cut down, particularly if you want a "cylinder bore" choke on it.
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