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Posted: 7/27/2005 12:51:32 PM EDT
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Are these shotguns worth the price? Thanks 43E1P |
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Not just 'no' but 'hell no'. Typical tacti-bling nonsense. They sell well to the crowd who gets off on listing all the 'mods' done to their shotgun. As far as using that crap? Time has shown that you can kick the everloving shit out of a box stock Mossberg 590 or a Remington 870 or an Ithaca 37 without it missing a beat. I don't understand what all these 'mods' really achieve, but people sure do get off paying for them and then posting detailed lists of what they paid for. Super trigger job - X dollars Super finish - X dollars Gadget - X dollars Assorted replacement parts that don't do anything better than the factory unit, but since it's a 'replacement part', it must somehow be better - X dollars Bells - X dollars Whistles - X dollars Shitty little mounting rails all over the place - X dollars Barrel modification that achieves the same pattern effect as a $70 Patternmaster - $275 Heat Shield (Because it looks cool, but I won't dare admit that's why I bought it- instead, I will make up some excuse like I am a total uncoordinated klutz and keep burning my hands on the barrel) - X dollars Install sights - X dollars Install lights - X dollars Chutes and Ladders in the buttstock - X dollars And when you're done, you've turned this... http://www.csmetall-werkes.com/images/Rem%20870%20HD.jpg Into this... http://www.elmspuzzles.com/gallery/Ingrid/Circus%20Parade.jpg |
Buwahahahahah. hat). |
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Wilson actually uses the cheaper Express models for their guns. For MUCH less money, you can buy the absolute BEST.....The Remington 870P Police gun, with most of the same bells and whistles as factory installed options. EVERYTHING you add to a true HD or combat shotgun has a price in effectiveness. Everything adds weight and bulk, which slow down how fast you can get the gun on target. What makes the shotgun so effective isn't the shot spread or the devastating load of shot. What makes it so good is the SPEED at which you can get that shot on target. Anything you add costs you in speed, so you better do a "real world" cost-benefit analysis to determine if that "Gee-whiz" accessory is really worth it. All this holds UNLESS what you really want is a range toy. If what you really want is a Hollywood gun to impress the other guys at the range or gun shop, go for it. Look at a gun used by a real pro and you'll see a nearly box-stock gun without all the lights and chrome. |
with the exception of the light idea, i agree. but then again, my experience is limited to six years on a tactical team. i use the SF fore end on my personal (commonality) and on issue 870's. and when i get tired from a day of training lifting up that muzzle, i remind myself to hit the gym a little harder. i havn't seen an 870 (even LL set ups) w/out that light in a long time. not general police issue mind you, i mean as close to HSLD as you can get w/ state and city swat teams. |
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Sorry Misunderstanding: What I meant was "lights and chrome" in the new car sense, as in the old days when you bought a new car, you could order all kinds of extra lights and chrome ge-gaws that served no real purpose. In no way did I mean that a light has no place on a good shotgun. In certain circumstances they very much fill a legit need. The kind of shotguns I was talking about are the "Hollywood range toys" with the AR-15 stock, an electric sight, a laser sight, ghost ring sights, a bayonet, heat shield, three different rail mounts, 25 rounds of spare ammo on-board, a camo finish, and a six-way sling system so if you drop the bloated monster you don't smash your toes. |
I need you to come to a couple of my classes and give that speech. Just cause it looks cool don't mean it'll work worth a shit. To illustrate this, I run every course of fire with a bone stock Maverick Model 88 along with my students and their whiz-bang pellet slingers. Sheep |
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