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10/21/2005 4:39:08 AM EDT
Is it worth scoping? What are your thoughts. I need to do something about the iron sites. If you would scope, would you go with a traditional scope or something like an Eotech?

Post pics if you would like.
10/21/2005 5:05:38 AM EDT
[#1]
I think the FAL is worth scoping.

I'd go with either an eotech/aimpoint or this:



On this mount:



Both available from DSA.
10/21/2005 5:23:40 AM EDT
[#2]
i have an eotech and an Acog for my FAL.........can't go wrong with either one
10/21/2005 5:48:13 AM EDT
[#3]
I was thinking about more of a traditional scope with adjustable objective or should I stick with more of a red dot type? I don't know if the FAL has enough reasonable precision for big glass. I'm not expecting it to be a tack driver, but actually being able to see a target at 300 yards would be nice.
10/21/2005 6:52:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Amount of glass to use just depends on your eyes.

ATN has a pretty nice scope for less than $300.  http://www.atncorp.com/DayOptics/RifleScopes/ATN2-6X40LU

Has BDC and range "assisting" reticle.  30mm tube, comes with rings.  I don't have one, just did some shopping.

S
10/21/2005 7:45:20 AM EDT
[#5]
My Tapco early weaver cover took fussing to get on and truly straight, but has been loktite fine since.

Since the 308 back and big bolt carrier fwd eat cheap scopes, I use a Hensoldt 4x24 on an ARMS stanag/weaver adaptor and it lines up great. 100m increment bullet drop elevation cam, German milspec tough glass, only $150ish after parting the claw mount, add $50 for the ARMS bit, super value.
10/21/2005 1:30:51 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I was thinking about more of a traditional scope with adjustable objective or should I stick with more of a red dot type? I don't know if the FAL has enough reasonable precision for big glass. I'm not expecting it to be a tack driver, but actually being able to see a target at 300 yards would be nice.



You might look at the Bushnell 3200 Elite. Good scope for the money and you can charge the luminous reticle with a flashlight for low light conditions. I have one on an AR I'm going to move to a bolt gun when I can get an Eotech.

ETA- mine is the 10x40 fixed, but there are a number of variable scopes in the line.
10/21/2005 6:36:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I've got a Simmons whitetail classic 3.5-10 on mine.Seems to be taking the recoil so far.I'm thinking about hunting with it .
10/21/2005 6:46:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Get a SUIT......30,000 armed military members can't be wrong.
10/21/2005 9:40:50 PM EDT
[#9]
I put an eotech on mine and i love it.
10/22/2005 7:16:17 AM EDT
[#10]
I put a 14x 50mm Springfield 1st Gen Combat scope on my DSA stg58 using a DSA mount.
It works.

rk
10/22/2005 2:22:09 PM EDT
[#11]
What about scope mounts?  Any that are significantly better than others?

-JZ
10/22/2005 5:15:59 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
What about scope mounts?  Any that are significantly better than others?

-JZ



I am sorry.  I thought I was in the HK forum.  DSA makes a nice one here.
10/23/2005 5:18:14 PM EDT
[#13]
I have an Elcan on one and an ACOG Reflex on the other.  Am happy with both.

As far as mounts, my DSA mount gives me a much warmer and fuzzier feeling than does the ARMS.  The latter is built nice, but the design is second rate (and mine does not fit an Imbel receiver very well).
10/23/2005 7:33:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Check out my ad in the EE. I have a TA11C for sale mounted on a DSA mount modified by GRSC.  

You can see a pic of it on grsc.com
10/23/2005 7:36:07 PM EDT
[#15]
What do y'all think about the ARMS #3?  I bought one used off of the falfiles, and it's a TIGHT fit, and seems to hold steady.  No clamps, just a press-fit.  Does anyone have any real experience with them?

Edit:  OMG this post ate my 9000th.
10/24/2005 12:03:11 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
What do y'all think about the ARMS #3?  I bought one used off of the falfiles, and it's a TIGHT fit, and seems to hold steady.  No clamps, just a press-fit.  Does anyone have any real experience with them?

Edit:  OMG this post ate my 9000th.



I have one and it no longer works. The plates that press against the receiver lost their tension after about 5 months. I had only fired the rifle 2 times for a total of maybe 100 rounds with it mounted. It also gets chewed up easily by brass. I know alot of people on the falfiles had similar problems. Also the mount is not made by arms its made by mounts plus under contract. To their credit they did offer to replace the mount for free though their explanation of why it stopped working was silly.
10/24/2005 1:33:12 AM EDT
[#17]
I purchased a DSA mount. It is everything everyone said it would be. As a temporary measure I have a Leupold 4-12 AO sitting on the mount. I won't have the opportunity to shoot it until this coming weekend.  If it shoots well I may just leave that scope on it.

The advice to purchase the DSA mount was a good one. I can't describe how fantastic the quality is. Not worth saving $20 to goto a different mount.
10/24/2005 9:52:09 AM EDT
[#18]
i have a kobra on mine very cool  just the right size. soon as i figure how to a pic  will post
10/24/2005 10:09:13 AM EDT
[#19]
I've got a 4x russian scope mounted on my accurate FAL and an Aimpoint mounted on my 18" social carbine.  I was pleasantly surprised by the accuracy of the FAL i had put the scope on just to see what it would do, so i just left it on.  I used Tapco mounts of differing generations on both with no complaints.
10/24/2005 12:58:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Get the DSA.  

It does scratch the receiver, but it rock solid, and tough.  

Just use locktight on the screws, and don't remove it too often to minimize scratching.  
10/24/2005 3:59:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Can you remove the bolt and bolt carrier with the DSA mount installed?
10/24/2005 5:49:28 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Can you remove the bolt and bolt carrier with the DSA mount installed?



Yes, you just open the rifle and pull the pigtail and the assembly comes out easily.
10/25/2005 2:29:10 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I was thinking about more of a traditional scope with adjustable objective or should I stick with more of a red dot type? I don't know if the FAL has enough reasonable precision for big glass. I'm not expecting it to be a tack driver, but actually being able to see a target at 300 yards would be nice.



You might look at the Bushnell 3200 Elite. Good scope for the money and you can charge the luminous reticle with a flashlight for low light conditions. I have one on an AR I'm going to move to a bolt gun when I can get an Eotech.

ETA- mine is the 10x40 fixed, but there are a number of variable scopes in the line.



+1

I'm using just that on mine right now.  Standard duplex recticle and Warne rings.  When I do my job it will shoot about 1.4 - 1.7" from my bipod.  Mine is a 3x9x40.
10/25/2005 3:25:08 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I was thinking about more of a traditional scope with adjustable objective or should I stick with more of a red dot type? I don't know if the FAL has enough reasonable precision for big glass. I'm not expecting it to be a tack driver, but actually being able to see a target at 300 yards would be nice.



You might look at the Bushnell 3200 Elite. Good scope for the money and you can charge the luminous reticle with a flashlight for low light conditions. I have one on an AR I'm going to move to a bolt gun when I can get an Eotech.

ETA- mine is the 10x40 fixed, but there are a number of variable scopes in the line.



+1

I'm using just that on mine right now.  Standard duplex recticle and Warne rings.  When I do my job it will shoot about 1.4 - 1.7" from my bipod.  Mine is a 3x9x40.



so are you using a STG type barrel mounted bipod or an aftermarket.  If the former and presuming you are talking about 5 shot 100 yard groups that's outstanding!
10/26/2005 9:18:32 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I was thinking about more of a traditional scope with adjustable objective or should I stick with more of a red dot type? I don't know if the FAL has enough reasonable precision for big glass. I'm not expecting it to be a tack driver, but actually being able to see a target at 300 yards would be nice.



You might look at the Bushnell 3200 Elite. Good scope for the money and you can charge the luminous reticle with a flashlight for low light conditions. I have one on an AR I'm going to move to a bolt gun when I can get an Eotech.

ETA- mine is the 10x40 fixed, but there are a number of variable scopes in the line.



+1

I'm using just that on mine right now.  Standard duplex recticle and Warne rings.  When I do my job it will shoot about 1.4 - 1.7" from my bipod.  Mine is a 3x9x40.



so are you using a STG type barrel mounted bipod or an aftermarket.  If the former and presuming you are talking about 5 shot 100 yard groups that's outstanding!



Mine is a DSA SA-58 Predator.  It's using an aluminum free float HG and I attached a sling-stud-mount Versa-Pod to it.  Works pretty well.  If I were to guess what I and the rifle could do benched day-in day-out I'd say around 2".   It does turn in sub 2-MoA groups though about 70% of the time with no wind and me on the top of my ability for the day.

Yes 100yd, 5 shot.



10/29/2005 3:59:58 PM EDT
[#26]
What do you guys think about the Burris Fullfield II line of scopes?  I was looking at the 1.5-5x.  Would this be a good scope option on a 20in Para StG?

-JZ
10/29/2005 5:48:26 PM EDT
[#27]
My friend has a Burris scope and loves it. He would purchase another in a heart beat.
11/3/2005 7:56:56 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Get a SUIT......30,000 armed military members can't be wrong.



Yeah, well look at the piece of shit their carrying now.
11/3/2005 10:18:53 PM EDT
[#29]
point to you...but the optic rocks.
11/4/2005 3:22:49 AM EDT
[#30]
With optics you get what you pay for. Lately I've been spending more money on optics than I do for the guns. I've seen too many guys at the range with a bad $49 scope.
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