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Posted: 7/4/2010 2:30:32 PM EDT
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Couple of questions...This pretains to Form 1, in Section 4, lines C, E, and F.
It asks about caliber in line C. I can list more than one right? It asks about barrel length in line E. Can I list more than one barrel length? Or simply put Less Than 15.5" It asks about overall length in line F. Can I list more than one length? Or simply put less than 36.5" Is this with stock fully extended? Am I limited to what lengths I can make it? Am I limited to what calibers? I have been told by a friend that the ATF once changed the rules a bit recently, and now all this information is required to be precise, and you aren't allowed to interchange calibers or lengths? Is this true? |
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Pick ONE of everything. They will NOT accept "Multi" for caliber. You have to describe the exact gun you are going to build. Including exact barrel length. The overall length is measured with the stock extended. You can change out uppers and as you wish after the approval as long as you keep the original available.
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Pick ONE of everything. They will NOT accept "Multi" for caliber. You have to describe the exact gun you are going to build. Including exact barrel length. The overall length is measured with the stock extended. You can change out uppers and as you wish after the approval as long as you keep the original available. Jeremy Ok, let me makes sure I understand this. So I do not have to stick to the caliber I wrote on the form? I just have to use it initially? If I did a 5.56 I could always switch later to say a 9mm? Is it the same with barrel lengths. I can change barrel lengths later on? |
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On Friday I received two approved form 1's for AR-15 SBR's. What I put on my forms:
First form: 4c: "5.56mm" 4e: "12.5" 4f: "31.5" 4h: "WITH OPTIONAL BARRELS OF OTHER CALIBER AND LENGTH" 4i: "RECREATIONAL SHOOTING, TRAINING, AND DEFENSE" Second form: 4c: "9mm" 4e: "7" 4f: "26" 4h: "WITH OPTIONAL BARRELS OF OTHER CALIBER AND LENGTH" 4i: "RECREATIONAL SHOOTING, TRAINING, AND DEFENSE" Both were built on lowers marked 5.56mm. Worked for me. |
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I left 4h blank for both of my Form 1's
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Yes to all... Just keep the original upper so you can go back to what you put on your Form 1. Jeremy I guess you would want to keep your original upper in the event you wanted to sell it? I could store it with what ever upper right? You need to keep it, because that is what is on your paperwork. If you sell the original upper, you can write a letter to the ATF and tell them that you are doing a perminent change (tax free). I'm sure you can keep any upper on the registered lower as long as you have the original upper... Remember that even with a 20" barrel, that is still an SBR. Quoted:
What if you wanted to SBR a bushmaster ACR it says multi cal on the receiver would you just pick one? Yes, it does not matter how the reciever is marked. This is what I have found with my research. Please do your own to be sure. In my experience the ATF is very helpful on the phone. Please don't ask for a letter though... 
Jeremy |
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There is no need to have extra calibers, lengths, explainations, etc. on the Form 1. You are applying to make and register a firearm. They want to know what you are making and registering. Put down the specs on your original configuration. You are allowed to mix and match at will after you get an approved Form 1 back. If you ever decide to get rid of the parts that made up the original configuration, the ATF REQUESTS that you notify them of the change. You aren't even required to.
This multi-caliber, less than 16", putting down the shortest length you can think of stuff came from people who were trying to cover themselves with the ATF. You are building a specific firearm, and rightly so, the ATF wants you to be specific on the form. |
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There is no need to have extra calibers, lengths, explainations, etc. on the Form 1. You are applying to make and register a firearm. They want to know what you are making and registering. Put down the specs on your original configuration. You are allowed to mix and match at will after you get an approved Form 1 back. If you ever decide to get rid of the parts that made up the original configuration, the ATF REQUESTS that you notify them of the change. You aren't even required to. This multi-caliber, less than 16", putting down the shortest length you can think of stuff came from people who were trying to cover themselves with the ATF. You are building a specific firearm, and rightly so, the ATF wants you to be specific on the form. Ahh, this makes good sense. Thanks. |
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