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10/3/2007 7:39:28 PM EDT
Are there any transferable T20E2 Garands out there?

If so, have any sold in the last 5 years?  What was the price?
10/3/2007 7:43:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Didn't they only make 20 or so of those? I imagine they are all spoken for, probably by Reed Knight or someone like him.
10/4/2007 3:37:19 AM EDT
[#2]
Probably a Beretta BM-59 is as close as you're going to get to an "affordable" ($9K)  Garand-like MG ....

And it's in .308 ...............
10/4/2007 4:05:31 AM EDT
[#3]
I don't know the details, but I have seen a select fire Garrand years ago.  Unfortionately I did not know the guy that had it and I didn't ask him a bunch of questions to know how the gun was converted to full auto.  I remember it was select fire and their was a lever but darn that has been about 15-years and back then I was not as interested or knowledgable about MGs.

So, all I can say is that I have seen one...

I also recall that that gun didn't look like it would be fun to shoot at all esp. in full auto.  The clips don't last long enough and the recoil seemed sever!
10/4/2007 6:31:17 AM EDT
[#4]
Found a pic!




From the M14forum I found it at:


Here's a photo of a T20E2 rifle designed by John Garand and produced by Springfield Armory in 1945. The T20E2 (select fire .30-06 caliber magazine fed rifle) was to be produced for the anticipated invasion of Japan in late 1945. According to Scott A. Duff, nineteen of these were made. Several of them are in the museum's collection. The select fire components on the T20E2 are almost identical to that of the M14

10/4/2007 6:36:08 AM EDT
[#5]
The one I had seen did not have a detachable magazine.  like I said before, I have no idea who did the conversion or even how it was done and I can't even remember what the selector looked like on the one I had seen.
10/4/2007 6:39:04 AM EDT
[#6]
That is too cool.  That baby would be something to hold on to in FA.
10/4/2007 6:41:18 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Found a pic!

www.imageseek.com/m1a/gallery/albums/closeup/RC_P1010002.jpg


From the M14forum I found it at:


Here's a photo of a T20E2 rifle designed by John Garand and produced by Springfield Armory in 1945. The T20E2 (select fire .30-06 caliber magazine fed rifle) was to be produced for the anticipated invasion of Japan in late 1945. According to Scott A. Duff, nineteen of these were made. Several of them are in the museum's collection. The select fire components on the T20E2 are almost identical to that of the M14



That is one of the coolest rifles ever.  Probably worthless on full auto, but who cares?!
10/4/2007 6:45:16 AM EDT
[#8]
It says "several" are in that museum. I wonder where the rest got off to?
10/5/2007 2:12:31 AM EDT
[#9]
I have never seen or heard of one in a private collection, but that doesn't mean it's impossible, just very unlikely. I do know of one collector with a few parts including the trigger group, gas system, and a few other trinkets.

One of the survivors is in the Oregon Military Museum, serial number 50.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ricklarson/oregonmilitarymuseumvaultguns/large/Mvc-006f.jpg

It had to be an uncomfortable rifle to shoot on full auto but the muzzle brake and compensator assembly was supposed to work fairly well, so who knows? The BAR rocks and recoils very smoothly in FA but it's also 19 pounds, twice the weight of the T20E2.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ricklarson/oregonmilitarymuseumvaultguns/large/Mvc-009f.jpg

It's one of the dream guns for my personal collection as it holds a very important place in history as the first proposed general issue U.S. automatic rifle. Not a carbine or a squad automatic or something similar, but envisioned for wider issue for infantry. Definitely the missing link between the M1 and M14.

10/5/2007 3:58:53 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

It's one of the dream guns for my personal collection as it holds a very important place in history as the first proposed general issue U.S. automatic rifle. Not a carbine or a squad automatic or something similar, but envisioned for wider issue for infantry. Definitely the missing link between the M1 and M14.



I consider it more of a Prototype of the M14 then a missing link
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