Service Grade price > M1 / M14 / M1 Carbine

Posted: 4/10/2007 3:51:31 PM EDT

What's a fair price for a very clean Service Grade-condition (at least) SA M1 nowadays?

All major components are SA marked. Serial # in the 5,800,000 range. Above average metal finish all around. No TE & MW numbers on the 1948 barrel but the crown is very nice & the bore has nice bright & sharp rifling. The stock has nice figure but un-refinshed. Trigger guard is milled and tight. The safety clicks on & off tight.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

Posted: 4/10/2007 3:54:25 PM EDT

[#1]

How do you know it's a service grade?

CMP sold them for $550 before this batch sold out.

Posted: 4/10/2007 3:56:27 PM EDT

[#2]

last time CMP sold SG rifles they went for $600. Keep in mind, without knowing what the bbl actually is, you don't know exactally what you have on your hands. try to get some gauges.

Posted: 4/10/2007 3:58:26 PM EDT

[#3]

I have a couple of Service Grades that I got from CMP myself over the years so I know what to expect. I know the last ones went for $550, but I'm curious on whether the prices on the non-CMP market have gone up much from that.

THX!

Neither I or the shop has the gauges (I asked them if they knew what it gauged out as & they didn't have any idea. Like I said the barrel looks pretty good, just by giving it a good look with a bore gauge from both ends).

Posted: 4/10/2007 4:05:33 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I have a couple of Service Grades that I got from CMP myself over the years so I know what to expect. I know the last ones went for $550, but I'm curious on whether the prices on the non-CMP market have gone up much from that.

THX!

Neither I or the shop has the gauges (I asked them if they knew what it gauged out as & they didn't have any idea. Like I said the barrel looks pretty good, just by giving it a good look with a bore gauge from both ends).

At least take an M2 round and try to guage the muzzle with it. A USGI M2 round is what you need. Not real scientific but 1/8' and above is good..

SA Service Grades were going for 550.00 last batch. I got mine when they were 500.00

Posted: 4/10/2007 4:19:09 PM EDT

[#5]

I asked them if they had a dummy 06 rd (they didn't) to do that, but I know they had M2 ammo there & should have thought about that.

They are asking $649 & I'm sure I can talk them down to $600.

It's in nicer condition (metal & wood) than the last SG I got from CMP for $550.

Posted: 4/10/2007 4:48:58 PM EDT

[#6]

if the bbl is good, take it for $600

Posted: 4/10/2007 4:52:57 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
if the bbl is good, take it for $600

+1

Posted: 4/10/2007 5:33:59 PM EDT

[#8]

That's a 1955 to 1957 reciever with a 1948 barrel on it.

Posted: 4/10/2007 6:11:40 PM EDT

[#9]

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That's a 1955 to 1957 reciever with a 1948 barrel on it.

I was thinking the same thing.

When I see a rifle with a barrel older than the receiver, the first thing I usually look for are signs of a reweld.

Posted: 4/10/2007 6:23:59 PM EDT

[#10]

not necessarily... there were a LOT of leftover barrels after the war that were used in rearsenaling, so it's not far off to have an old barrel on a new receiver

Posted: 4/11/2007 6:52:25 AM EDT

[#11]

NT is right. I've seen CMP rifles with quite a mix of dates on major parts that didn't correspond to the receiver serial date range.

The shop also has a Korean import in not nearly as nice a shape.

I appreciate the feedback & may move on getting the rifle.

Posted: 4/11/2007 11:41:05 AM EDT

[#12]

I got a Winny Service grade from the south store within the last couple of months for $700.00 FWIW.

Posted: 4/11/2007 1:16:19 PM EDT

[#13]

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I got a Winny Service grade from the south store within the last couple of months for $700.00 FWIW.

how much of it was Winchester beyond the receiver?

Posted: 4/11/2007 8:56:34 PM EDT

[#14]

The one I got from them about six weeks ago had almost all WRA parts (Internals were mixed) bolt, op rod, front and rear sights. MW 1.5 and TE 4 on a (I believe) proper WRA barrel. The Gas cylinder is not WRA.

Shoots good too, may take it to Perry this year.

Jim

Posted: 4/11/2007 9:31:51 PM EDT

[#15]

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not necessarily... there were a LOT of leftover barrels after the war that were used in rearsenaling, so it's not far off to have an old barrel on a new receiver

Yes. I have an IHC service grade, early 1950's rifle, with a SA 1943 barrel. The reciever is electropenciled that it is a LEAD (IIRC) rebuild.

Posted: 4/12/2007 7:12:32 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That's a 1955 to 1957 reciever with a 1948 barrel on it.

I was thinking the same thing.

When I see a rifle with a barrel older than the receiver, the first thing I usually look for are signs of a reweld.

I have an HRA barreled reciever from the CMP. It has a 43 SA barrel on it.

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