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7/12/2007 6:44:09 AM EDT
I didn't know if I should post this here, but I was wondering what you guys thought about the Sig 556. Takes AR mags, uses the same accesories, and looks great. I hear that with that gas-piston action, it really reliable. Any thoughts? If its good tell me. If it's crap, tell me. I dont want to spend about 1300 on crap.
7/12/2007 6:14:57 AM EDT
[#1]
I would buy one.

If it looked like this:

7/12/2007 6:43:45 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I would buy one.

If it looked like this:

www.fototime.com/9DB454D913D71D6/standard.jpg
I would buy two if they looked like that! I don't know why Sig decided to make that abortion they call the 556.
7/8/2007 12:13:32 AM EDT
[#3]
Wrong forum, there are a ton of threads over on the General Weapons forum.

Some hate the 556 cause it dosen't have a traditional Swiss lower with the side folder. Personally I like the idea of it using AR mags and AR stocks. The Mapgul UBR is going to look right at home on my 556. The 556 comes with fugly ass furniture but that can be replaced.

Nobody does chocolate, watches, bank accounts, and assault rifles like the Swiss.

7/8/2007 5:01:36 AM EDT
[#4]
I picked one up and "Fondled" at the local gunshow this weekend. For a rifle having a really lightweight barrel it's a heavy beast. What gives with that??
7/8/2007 5:25:55 AM EDT
[#5]
I have to admit I think its ugly, but I find myself wanting one.

I saw a pic of a 556 that had a magpul CTR stock, but it also folded along side the weapon like a traditional sig 55x rifle. I heard it wasn't possible to fold the stock, though.
7/8/2007 5:36:49 AM EDT
[#6]
It's ugly as crap. The only way I would get one is if Sig fixed it and made it look like a real Sig 55x (550 style folding stock, regular 550 handguards that dont have gills, correct "bulge" on the barrel, etc)

ETA: Oh yes, and the correct sights.
7/8/2007 6:53:22 AM EDT
[#7]
I'm the exact opposite.  I liked the looks in pics.  I considered buying one. Then I saw/handled it in person.  Bulky, heavy, and crude is how I'd describe it. Much happier with my ARs.

Sean
7/8/2007 7:24:21 AM EDT
[#8]
Shoot one.

You will change your tune.

Clean one.

You will consider selling your AR's.

Is it a perfect copy of the 550?  NOT EVEN CLOSE.  

It is a fine rifle with many excellent features.  The trigger is way better than any stock AR trigger and IMHO rivals many match AR triggers.  While recoil in a 5.56 carbine isnt much the SIG manages to make it even less noticable and much more controlable than any other AR I have used in rapid fire. Finally by not using a gas tube the SIG stays much cleaner and runs much cooler.  I used some POS wolf out of one and the insides looked brand new when I was done with no malfunctions.  I have had wolf ammo destroy extractors on AR's within 1 or 2 mags of use and then a several hour cleaning session.

The SIG is not for everyone but neither is the AR for that matter.  

Buy what you like and shoot what you buy.
7/8/2007 6:14:33 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Bulky, heavy, and crude is how I'd describe it.

Sean


Crude?

Do you own one, or have you ever shot one...

It has the smoothest action and trigger of any auto loader I have ever handled. Swiss prescision just like a Rolex's interal parts.

As for the weight, yeah it's heavier compared to my Colt light weight but it is lighter than my Russian VEPR K.

I don't like the handguards either, the original Swiss ones are okay but I really want to get a Brügger & Thomet rail system for it.
7/8/2007 8:49:41 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I have to admit I think its ugly, but I find myself wanting one.


+1 here.  Congratulations on your purchase!  I myself have thought about buying a SIG 556 for the same reasons you stated.

I have not handled one since the SHOT Show.  None of the FFL dealers in my area have one and will not order one because they are still too difficult to get.  Yes they are heavy but I am very much interested in getting one, probably sometime after the first of next year – it’s the money thing ka know.  

Spending $1,300 on a SIG 556 is not any more waste of money than buying some run-of-the-mill AR15!
7/8/2007 8:54:43 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

...I don't like the handguards either, the original Swiss ones are okay but I really want to get a Brügger & Thomet rail system for it.


+1. The Brügger & Thomet rail system will do it for this rifle!  Do it and post some pictures!
7/8/2007 9:14:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Can't polish a turd...
7/9/2007 1:12:51 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Can't polish a turd...


Not true!!!

I once new of a guy who had two cufflinks made of polished, petrified dinosaur poop!...

Thusly proving that you CAN polish a turd!!!...

7/9/2007 1:13:01 AM EDT
[#14]
doubletap
7/9/2007 1:13:12 AM EDT
[#15]
tripletap Sorry!
7/11/2007 8:36:00 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Can't polish a turd...


But many will try and do their best to convince you the 556 is up Swissarms standards.

"But I changed the handguards and added a shitty looking ACE folding hinge with a CTR. It's the same as the SIG 55x now"

Uh-huh...
7/12/2007 7:33:08 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I would buy one.

If it looked like this:

www.fototime.com/9DB454D913D71D6/standard.jpg


I bought one anyway, despite thet fact that the Swiss Arms type rifles are what I actually wanted.

The stock that came on it is a POS, and will need some type of replacement.

The rail on top is a fucking joke. Not just a joke, but a fucking joke. It's way out of spec, bears on a surface on the top of the receiver only about 3/8" wide, the screws protrude from the top of it, and it make removing the handgaurds impossible without gouging little chunks out of them. On many 556s, it's also canted to one side (thanks for that 3/8" bearing surface). Thankfully mine suffers from no such ailment that I can detect.

The rifle is a odd conglomeration of REALLY well made internals and REALLY half-assed exterior components.

I will hang on to mine for a little while, hoping the aftermarket will come to the rescue and produce a decent rail, some proper sights, and maybe, just maybe, a better lower.

The lower works, but I'd rather have something a bit more....ehhh...elegant.

All that said, it does shoot really nice and the internals seem really well made. The bolt, carrier, and guide rails in the receiver move like ball bearings on glass yet have zero slop. It seems pretty accurate to me, though I haven't really shot groups with it and even if I did, they wouldn't mean much, as I'm a terrible shot. It's been 100% reliable in every respect thus far, and even spent a day slung on my back in constant rain with no ill effects.

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