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10/5/2016 8:09:23 PM EDT
I have wanted a sub 2000 for years and years, but I could never find one for a good price.  Always figured I would get a Glock 9mm for the magazines even though I don't have a Glock.  Fast forward to now and I have a Beretta 92 and the Beretta Subs are relatively available and affordable.  So I'm about to pull the trigger, but I want to know if there are known issues before I do.

Any problems for a lefty?  I know they enlarged the ejection port on the gen 2.

Any issues with sights and zeroing?  Front sight issue been fixed?

Does the reciprocating charging handle ever catch you?

Does the tube bite your cheek?

Rails in spec?

Anything I might not even know to ask?
10/5/2016 8:27:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Too lazy and/or unqualified to answer the rest, but mine does like to rip a beard hair out on occasion.

Overall I really enjoy it
10/6/2016 1:01:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Front sight fixed.

Op handle won't touch you.

The tube doesn't bite.

Buy it.  Sometimes it's handy to have a rifle the hippies don't know you have.
10/6/2016 10:30:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.

10/6/2016 10:44:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:  Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.
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What grain, and what distance?
10/6/2016 11:48:31 AM EDT
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Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.

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Unless you mis-typed, that's going to make it shoot even lower.

Adjusting iron sights and moving your point of impact it's FORS... Front-Opposite, Rear-Same.

Think about it, if your new front sight is even taller, you're going to lower the muzzle even further to line it up in the rear peep.
10/6/2016 11:58:36 AM EDT
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Unless you mis-typed, that's going to make it shoot even lower.

Adjusting iron sights and moving your point of impact it's FORS... Front-Opposite, Rear-Same.

Think about it, if your new front sight is even taller, you're going to lower the muzzle even further to line it up in the rear peep.
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Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.



Unless you mis-typed, that's going to make it shoot even lower.

Adjusting iron sights and moving your point of impact it's FORS... Front-Opposite, Rear-Same.

Think about it, if your new front sight is even taller, you're going to lower the muzzle even further to line it up in the rear peep.


I think you're backwards on that. Taller rear peep = raised muzzle.
10/6/2016 7:22:20 PM EDT
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Other people have problems with zeroing?  This frustrates the heck out of me on the scorpion.  And it is much more important on the Sub 2000.
10/7/2016 2:07:39 PM EDT
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I think you're backwards on that. Taller rear peep = raised muzzle.
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Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.



Unless you mis-typed, that's going to make it shoot even lower.

Adjusting iron sights and moving your point of impact it's FORS... Front-Opposite, Rear-Same.

Think about it, if your new front sight is even taller, you're going to lower the muzzle even further to line it up in the rear peep.


I think you're backwards on that. Taller rear peep = raised muzzle.


Oh... I thought he meant the front sight and sight tower. Since that's often taken off and replaced aftermarket anyway.
10/8/2016 3:19:23 AM EDT
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One issue I have is that the supply is so scarce I drove 8 hours today to buy one for a birthday gift.  And my cruise control is broken.
10/8/2016 4:50:59 AM EDT
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Front sight fixed.

Op handle won't touch you.

The tube doesn't bite.

Buy it.  Sometimes it's handy to have a rifle the hippies don't know you have.
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How did they fix the front sight? Is it keyed to the barrel now? If so, what method did they use?
10/8/2016 8:38:26 AM EDT
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How did they fix the front sight? Is it keyed to the barrel now? If so, what method did they use?
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Front sight fixed.

Op handle won't touch you.

The tube doesn't bite.

Buy it.  Sometimes it's handy to have a rifle the hippies don't know you have.


How did they fix the front sight? Is it keyed to the barrel now? If so, what method did they use?



It's got a set screw on the top.
10/8/2016 5:11:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Looks like the front sight assembly screws onto the bbl & is loctited in place.  The elevation is adjusted by the use of an AR front sight, and then the entire assembly is adjustable for windage.
10/8/2016 7:53:59 PM EDT
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What grain, and what distance?
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Quoted:  Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.


What grain, and what distance?



Alright. Installed 3D printed rear sight. Shots ended up a little to high at 50 yards, that's okay, zeroed at 100 and am completely satisfied.

I was shooting 180 grain loads at 25 yards and 50 yards originally.

The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.
10/8/2016 10:11:37 PM EDT
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Alright. Installed 3D printed rear sight. Shots ended up a little to high at 50 yards, that's okay, zeroed at 100 and am completely satisfied.

I was shooting 180 grain loads at 25 yards and 50 yards originally.

The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.
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Quoted:  Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.


What grain, and what distance?



Alright. Installed 3D printed rear sight. Shots ended up a little to high at 50 yards, that's okay, zeroed at 100 and am completely satisfied.

I was shooting 180 grain loads at 25 yards and 50 yards originally.

The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.



10/8/2016 11:31:27 PM EDT
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Alright. Installed 3D printed rear sight. Shots ended up a little to high at 50 yards, that's okay, zeroed at 100 and am completely satisfied.

I was shooting 180 grain loads at 25 yards and 50 yards originally.

The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.
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Quoted:  Mine currently has an issue of shooting way too low.

I have 3d printed a taller rear sight to address this issue (maybe).

Ill test fire it soon.

Thats my only gripe.


What grain, and what distance?


Alright. Installed 3D printed rear sight. Shots ended up a little to high at 50 yards, that's okay, zeroed at 100 and am completely satisfied.

I was shooting 180 grain loads at 25 yards and 50 yards originally.

The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.


Pretty slick.  Well done.
10/9/2016 12:47:18 AM EDT
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The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.
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What material did you print it in?
10/9/2016 11:52:21 AM EDT
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What material did you print it in?
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The 3D printed rear sight works!  Only downside is I have to fold it up manually. I didn't design it to grab the sides of the housing to raise automatically. Now that I know I have the proper height, I can design with the side wings to deploy as originally intended.


What material did you print it in?


Its PLA filament.



From the front, the edges are a little wonky, but you don't see this side when shooting.



From the shooters perspective.



Now of course I do have to flip it up manually.  The rifle is un-folded while in the truck.  Ill fold it when transporting out of the truck and its in a small backpack.

It doesn't have the wings yet on the sides to deploy automatically, still trying to figure out how to print it with those as now I print the sight on its side rather than front or back.

Also, it is tough to fold completely and lock because of the thickness of the sight, I didn't want to sacrifice durability to make the sight thinner at the top.

Now that I know I have the proper height, I can modify it more.

Printed on a New Matter Mod-t using 1.75mm black PLA filament.

10/10/2016 6:36:49 PM EDT
[#18]
I had no problem zeroing mine but the front post is pretty far down and to the right a bit.  Still useable though so I'm OK with it.
10/10/2016 9:55:26 PM EDT
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You ran out of windage adjustment?
10/11/2016 9:36:16 AM EDT
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I had no problem zeroing mine but the front post is pretty far down and to the right a bit.  Still useable though so I'm OK with it.
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You probably have some cant on the front sight tower.

I did on mine, I fixed it, and now Ive got plenty of windage either way.

At first it looked fine.  I took it of (its on there tight!) and eyed it again, now its good.

Make sure you use a dab of blue locktite when you put the front sight tower back on.

10/14/2016 9:35:49 AM EDT
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The new front sight is held on via jam nut. It is actually very solid and if you need more windage you can just loosen the nuts and move it one way or the other. Both of my g2 subs work great, the .40 cal kicks a bit more than the 9mm, both are reliable and accurate.
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