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Posted: 7/23/2024 10:16:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: d16man]
What's the best, most durable suppressor for an M4-style carbine, with a 14" barrel, that suppresses muzzle blast enough to prevent outright hearing damage when fired indoors with no hearing protection?
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Posted: 7/1/2024 3:33:25 PM EST
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LOL |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2024 4:31:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: s4s4u]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kraquine: LOL This ^^^ Unless you shoot subsonic, there will still be much loudness. |
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Posted: 7/1/2024 5:36:07 PM EST
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 9:46:16 AM EST
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It will take the noise down from EEEEEEEE oh my god I’m deaf, to holy shit that is still fucking loud.
Still worth it though. The suppressor forums are a good place to start. I like YHM because they make solid stuff at a great price. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/2/2024 1:24:38 PM EST
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 The Goldilocks Suppressor? Griffin Recce 5K Review  Budget Price, High End Performance: OCL Polonium K review I’ve shot both of these outside without earpro. Neither were painful, Griffin was probably a little quieter. Would not want to do it indoors though. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 6:14:05 PM EST
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Can only speak from personal experience, but my 16" barrel with a YHM Turbo t2 is hearing safe to me...
I'm 38, work in a factory, been shooting and riding most my life so take that for what it's worth, but I can shoot that all evening without ringing ears and such. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 1:06:52 AM EST
[#7]
Check out the Rugged Radiant
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Posted: 7/11/2024 4:55:30 AM EST
[#8]
14.5, m4 style? I love my Allen Engineering m4, has a deeper tone to my ear than other cans and is more pleasant to shoot.
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Posted: 7/11/2024 4:17:21 PM EST
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I use an omega 30 on my 14.5 colt socom. I’m sure it’s not hearing safe, especially indoors. Now if I’m out in the open, not under the roof it’s much more pleasant, again not hearing safe I’m sure but great with electronic muffs.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 7:02:59 PM EST
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Ears not ringing =/= hearing safe
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 7:11:57 PM EST
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My saker 762 on my 10.5 is right on the border of hearing safe. Usually I can get a few mags through before I gotta take a break. My 12.5 and up is fine.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 10:09:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By campower: Can only speak from personal experience, but my 16" barrel with a YHM Turbo t2 is hearing safe to me... I'm 38, work in a factory, been shooting and riding most my life so take that for what it's worth, but I can shoot that all evening without ringing ears and such. Indoors? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2024 7:05:56 AM EST
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I would not advise you shoot without ear pro.
I run a SOCOM MINI2 on my 14.5" mid just fine Run a YHM Turbo T3 on everything else. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:47:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: I would not advise you shoot without ear pro. I run a SOCOM MINI2 on my 14.5" mid just fine Run a YHM Turbo T3 on everything else. Of course, but when shit goes bump in the night it isn't always convenient to grab your ears before you have to engage. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2024 8:04:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Of course, but when shit goes bump in the night it isn't always convenient to grab your ears before you have to engage. Move? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2024 1:24:39 PM EST
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CAT ODB A1 718
Zero flash, low backpressure, quiet to shooter, quiet in general, 100% Inconel construction. Bad marketing, not super lightweight, not cheap. Meets your criteria better than anything else on the market by a wide margin. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2024 10:26:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By aandrews: What's the best, most durable suppressor for an M4-style carbine, with a 14" barrel, that suppresses muzzle blast enough to prevent outright hearing damage when fired indoors with no hearing protection? No silencer meets all those requirements. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:29:47 AM EST
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Indoors is a VERY different case than outdoors. Even shooting under a roof outdoors make a huge difference. None will be close to hearing safe indoors. Still a lot better than none though.
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Posted: 7/24/2024 9:12:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: No silencer meets all those requirements. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RenegadeX: No silencer meets all those requirements. This Hang some peltors on your rifle buttstock Originally Posted By owtlaw: Check out the Rugged Radiant I didn’t think the radiant was a quiet can… |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:55:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KavonTN: 14.5, m4 style? I love my Allen Engineering m4, has a deeper tone to my ear than other cans and is more pleasant to shoot. I second this motion , I love mine. PCC with suppressor and subs for inside house though. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 3:04:18 PM EST
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What if we use subsonic 5.56? He never said it had to cycle.
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:00:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: Green0]
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I have shot all of our current 5.56mm suggested primary application cans indoors without ear protection. I believe when I shot the recce 5K I shot it on a 14.5 inside, but all the others I've shot on 11.5" guns indoor. I think all of them will leave a shooter with his hearing intact if the suppressor is used in the line of duty or protecting your life, but I don't think you would want to make a normal practice of shooting them without ear protection suppressed indoor, because the sound levels on many of the cans are safe per AHAAH for ~14-30 rounds per week, which is not a lot of rounds per week, and is like 5.6 to 12 rounds per day.
Some of the cans I have fired on 11.5's with the barrel one foot off a rubber block barricade without ear protection, without ringing my ears, just to try to understand what that would sound like including the reflection off a close object, but when I did that, I was firing like 1928 thompson chicken wing hold, because I didn't need to aim at one foot off the target. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2024 12:12:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: dmk0210]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluedog82:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocPdKVmd5Zw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzGB1AZrlQI’ve shot both of these outside without earpro. Neither were painful, Griffin was probably a little quieter. Would not want to do it indoors though. I compared both of these (actually a Recce 5 mod4, Recce 5K and Full size Polo) without earpro just a few weeks ago on a tuned 12.5" and tuned 11.5". Outside in an open field, was loud but bearable (and I'm still not going to make a habit of that). Outside but on a concrete pad and under a wooden roof was way, way louder, with some slight pain. It was a huge difference with just the floor and roof reflections, but still open on all sides. Inside a house, any 5.56 can is going to hurt, no 5.56 can is hearing safe, no matter the barrel length. But it's a lot better than no can. Even a Turbo K is well worth the cost effort. But of course, still wear earpro whenever possible. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2024 11:17:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: Ears not ringing =/= hearing safe Gotta agree. Just because you're not having your ears ringing, doeesn't necessarily mean you're not doing damage. To try a can out for a couple of rounds to get an idea of it-sure I get that. To shoot a prolonged range session-not a good idea. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2024 11:19:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forgottenben: What if we use subsonic 5.56? He never said it had to cycle. Might as well just shoot a bolt gun then at that point. |
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Posted: 7/29/2024 8:07:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: ggllggll]
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I'll toss my hat in the ring...
Rex MG7 224 is good. I heard that the polonium was supposed to be the beat bang for your buck, so I ordered one and honestly to me it's no better than the MG7, and sounds louder side by side. Just this weekend we shot 14.5" m16 eith the Rex and the OCL, Rex beat it hands down. Even shooting the Rex on a 10 inch M16 was comfortable. Hearing safe?? Probably not, but it takes a huge chunk off the top.tip. ETA: PLUS the Rex will turn a cool shade of blue when you get it realllllly hot.  Attached File |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2024 7:41:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: bluedog82]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ggllggll: I'll toss my hat in the ring... Rex MG7 224 is good. I heard that the polonium was supposed to be the beat bang for your buck, so I ordered one and honestly to me it's no better than the MG7, and sounds louder side by side. Just this weekend we shot 14.5" m16 eith the Rex and the OCL, Rex beat it hands down. Even shooting the Rex on a 10 inch M16 was comfortable. Hearing safe?? Probably not, but it takes a huge chunk off the top.tip. ETA: PLUS the Rex will turn a cool shade of blue when you get it realllllly hot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/10799/20240318_184036_2_jpg-3279920.JPG The Rex’s are good cans. My first can was an MG7K that I later had Ecco Machine mod for me. They are, however, bigger cans than the Polo Ks—1.7” vs 1.6” OD, and about an inch longer, plus a few oz heavier.  The King of Silence, Improved: Rex MG7K Mod Ecco |
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