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3/16/2012 9:13:09 PM EDT
a local shop near me has AAC m4-2000 for $980 and a Surefire Suppressor for 1200 and hes gonna throw the OD mounts for either free of charge. Is the surefire one worth the extra or is the aac just as good or better?
im mainly looking at noise reduction, durability and which can handle more rounds through em. In the last few months ive put 8000 rounds through my 2 ars and plan on doubling or tripling that number before the years up if not the summer looking for one that can handle alot of rounds.

thanks in advance.
3/16/2012 9:51:31 PM EDT
[#1]
You will get all sorts of different answers and probably you have just started a small war here. In reality you should just get the one you like the most and be happy with it. Either one should serve you quite well.
3/16/2012 9:55:24 PM EDT
[#2]
yeah i just dont know which one both i like equally and both have great QD systems....choices choices....
3/16/2012 9:59:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Tough call, both are great suppressors. I have an AAC M4-2000 and am very happy with it. I would play with both if you can and decide which mounting system you prefer.
3/16/2012 10:07:26 PM EDT
[#4]
well ive held both and have used the M4-1000 on a buddys and liked it alot but was wondering if the surefire was any quieter than the m4-2000
3/16/2012 10:55:57 PM EDT
[#5]
AAC cans are great performers for the money.  I personally prefer Surefire and I think the SF mounting system is better.



3/17/2012 12:27:39 AM EDT
[#6]
Surefire has a better attachment method. AAC is a little quieter. Neither should be used much without earpro so I went with the better attachment system.
3/17/2012 12:36:54 AM EDT
[#7]
I run the Surefire FA556AR. It's the full sized 556 can.

I love it, and the ear muffs stay home, without any issues.

You will find if you shoot in the open with any can attached, they're even quieter as your not getting any sound kicked back at you from a roof or solid cement slab.

Here is my can and attachment system.




This one pictured is pinned on  14.5 inch barrel.
I run another one on a 16 inch Larue upper, The Larue is heavier, as I run a scope on that gun. Point of impact shift without the can attached is about 1 inch at 100 yards, worse with some ammo.

After a few mags, that mirage gets so bad, I can't shoot groups any longer. Rifle cans get hot real quick, so hot it could severely burn you.
3/17/2012 5:34:42 AM EDT
[#8]
I was considering the M4-2000 & the FA556-212. With a little shopping around you can pretty much get either for the same price, or at least within $100 of the other.
I ended up going with the M4, due to availability, and pricing. Reguardless which side of the fence you sit on, I think most would agree that they're pretty much equal, and you wouldn't go wrong with either.
I used the extra cash I had left over to buy an AAC Prodigy with the M4.
3/17/2012 6:00:19 AM EDT
[#9]
Have an AAC, next 5.56 or 7.62 can I buy will be a Surefire due to the better mounting system.
3/17/2012 6:17:56 AM EDT
[#10]
I bought the AAC. Got it for pretty much the same price as you, but without the mount.  I paid $890 for the can, and $80 for the mount online.
3/17/2012 6:19:29 AM EDT
[#11]
get the surefire, better mounting system, better POI shift, better durability(leo and mil groups are switching to these because of this)
3/17/2012 9:12:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Thank for the imput guys I'll prob go with the surefire it looks a little better he called again today he got a few KAC supressors for the same as the surefire
3/17/2012 9:49:31 AM EDT
[#13]
I own a M4-2000 and it works great for me.  The Surefire can will work great too.  There is no right or wrong answer to the question.  Both are great suppressors.



My M4-2000 in action with my M16.




3/17/2012 3:04:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Both are great cans. I don't think you will go wrong with either.

That being said, I really like the size and weight of the surefire.
3/17/2012 4:39:44 PM EDT
[#15]
surefire
3/17/2012 5:30:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Surefire.  Better mounting system.
3/17/2012 7:14:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Thank for the imput guys I'll prob go with the surefire it looks a little better he called again today he got a few KAC supressors for the same as the surefire


Bro, are you talking about Knesek????
3/18/2012 2:55:35 PM EDT
[#18]
No but have thought about buying from them there another local to me kneske is about 3 hours from me. Is there anything wrong with kneske?? I haven't heard much about em
3/18/2012 4:27:38 PM EDT
[#19]
this is the most recent thing but others have reported similar stuff for a while.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/962550_Knesek_Guns_Inc___Anyone_Else_Experience_anything_like_this_from_this_company_.html
3/18/2012 7:25:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Well definitely not dealing with them thnls for the info.
3/18/2012 9:08:02 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
this is the most recent thing but others have reported similar stuff for a while.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/962550_Knesek_Guns_Inc___Anyone_Else_Experience_anything_like_this_from_this_company_.html


Thanks for posting that, I was planning to buy a few lowers from Knesek which would cost around $2,500.  I will take my business else where.
3/19/2012 3:07:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Probably gonna go with the surefire suppressor and I'm definatly not dealing with kneske. Not that I was to begin with but not now for sure
3/19/2012 6:23:01 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm waiting for an AAC SDN-6 and a Surefire 762MINI for 300blk rifles I'm building.

I'll give you a range report and video of side by side comparison after they come in.

3/19/2012 6:45:55 PM EDT
[#24]
what about a ops can ? thats what i am leaning with right now
3/19/2012 7:06:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Well built, mounts well, quiet, slightly on the heavy side for the longer models, very cheap. At this point the only reflex 556 can I would buy is OPS.
3/19/2012 7:32:13 PM EDT
[#26]
AAC seems to be the new Hotness, but I prefer the Surefire Brakes and Mounts....  So after I get my Forms 1s, I'm going to try my luck with S.F. cans...
3/20/2012 1:19:25 AM EDT
[#27]
Why is the SF mount better than the AAC 51T? Wobble is intentional doesn't
effect accuracy.
3/20/2012 7:30:42 AM EDT
[#28]
The surefire mount doesn't engage anything around the mount.  Doesn't engage anything on the mount, really.



That's just what I want.  A suppressor that is suppose to wobble on its mount.  I guess that why they made the 91T mount, huh?  If that was the case they should have kept the 18T.




Originally Posted By an_her


Why is the SF mount better than the AAC 51T? Wobble is intentional doesn't

effect accuracy.






 
3/20/2012 9:59:55 AM EDT
[#29]
The wobble is to prevent from becoming stuck, like SF cans which are notorious for that issue
3/20/2012 10:05:59 AM EDT
[#30]
The 91T is a product improvement based on civilian consumer complaints.

It wasn't necessary, but people kept bitching about it.

The 51T is an excellent mount, as is the material quality, design and construction of AAC suppressors.
3/20/2012 10:02:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
The wobble is to prevent from becoming stuck, like SF cans which are notorious for that issue


The Surefire can's emergency removal procedure is always a hoot!

AAC vs. Surefire, you're pretty much running on the same marginal utility curve.  Never had to buy a SF can myself since my buddy swears by em, I run AAC stuff.  For someone who's not yet invested in a platform choose which "looks" better, I believe both to be quality designs which will serve users admirably.  There is slight differences in blowback, sound suppression levels, and POI shift, but their respective cans (212 vs. M4-2000, Mini vs. Mini, SPR/M4 vs. FA556) are all pretty close to each other.

Supposed issues with the 51T mount are blown way, way, way out of proportion IMHO.  My personal M4-2000 has seen many hosts (funny how many folks have suppressor mounts but no can), and i've never had an issue.
3/20/2012 10:39:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The wobble is to prevent from becoming stuck, like SF cans which are notorious for that issue


The Surefire can's emergency removal procedure is always a hoot!

AAC vs. Surefire, you're pretty much running on the same marginal utility curve.  Never had to buy a SF can myself since my buddy swears by em, I run AAC stuff.  For someone who's not yet invested in a platform choose which "looks" better, I believe both to be quality designs which will serve users admirably.  There is slight differences in blowback, sound suppression levels, and POI shift, but their respective cans (212 vs. M4-2000, Mini vs. Mini, SPR/M4 vs. FA556) are all pretty close to each other.

Supposed issues with the 51T mount are blown way, way, way out of proportion IMHO.  My personal M4-2000 has seen many hosts (funny how many folks have suppressor mounts but no can), and i've never had an issue.


I went with Surefire. Like you noted, they all sound somewhat similar, and the SF can was lighter and everyone that I know who has a lot of experience with them as well as AAC claims they have less POI shift, I like the latch design better, don't see how the can could become stuck as the latch doesn't latch to the mount, though.

I'm not a fan of AAC on principal because of how I perceive that they represent themselves in public on forums.

Since both are quality products and will out-last my barrel most likely and sound similar, I went with the one from the company I have had good luck with from the past, and who is more professional in their self-representation on the forums, in my opinion.
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