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7/8/2012 8:28:13 AM EDT
So far, I've found two companies that make swagers that remove the primer crimp in military ammo, Dillon and RCBS. Any opinions on which of these is better? Any other companies make good swagers? Thanks for any help you can give me.
7/8/2012 10:43:28 AM EDT
[#1]
I just bought the Dillon super swage 600 yesterday.  So far I've already done about 1400 lake city cases with no issue.  It's a pretty tedious process so I did it while watching a movie.  I have no experience with the rcbs though.
7/8/2012 10:51:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I just bought the Dillon super swage 600 yesterday.  So far I've already done about 1400 lake city cases with no issue.  It's a pretty tedious process so I did it while watching a movie.  I have no experience with the rcbs though.


If you think it's tedious using a Super Swage, try it with an RCBS rig...

I have both, and I only use the RCBS swage button to gage whether or not I have the Dillon properly adjusted.

Edit to add that I'm referring to the old, press mounted RCBS swager...
7/8/2012 10:54:13 AM EDT
[#3]
Have and use Dillon 600 swager.

To my knowledge there is only one better method to swaging and it's an integral part of loading on Dillon 1050.

The RCBS swager I have not seen and based on reports is every bit as good as Dillon.

Can't say one is better than the other.

I do have RCBS swager that fits press ram and press tool head. That's what the Dillon 600 replaced.
7/8/2012 12:47:09 PM EDT
[#4]
I've had the Dillon for a while, and I find it very easy to use.  I have it bolted to a piece of wood, and clamp that to my bench.  



A buddy that used to always borrow my SS finally got one for himself, now mine is always within reach when I need it.
7/8/2012 4:26:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Dillon. It may seem tedious, but it makes quick work of what would normally take hours and hours to accomplish.
7/8/2012 5:43:04 PM EDT
[#6]
I find the Dillon to work very quick and smooth

7/8/2012 5:57:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I find the Dillon to work very quick and smooth

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e219/angus6/Untitled-3.jpg


LOL.

I have the Dillon Super Swage 600.  It's awesome and makes removing military crimps easy.  I've used it for 9mm, 308 and 223.
7/8/2012 6:31:21 PM EDT
[#8]




Another method is a Hornady primer crimp reamer with a positive stop chucked in a drill.



Far drill has a PP uniformer in it.




Hornady reamer is about $12, most people already have a drill.








The Dillon is a great tool for a large batch, I use the drill for small batches.
7/10/2012 4:26:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Bought this RCBS Bench Mounted Primer Pocket Swager when they first came out and I love it...

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/319/319662.jpg

7/10/2012 1:55:25 PM EDT
[#10]
Like Dryflash3 said "Hornady reamer is about $12, most people already have a drill." This is my favorite as with it chucked up in my 18v Compact I can process cases quickly. I would not like the tool without using the drill. Regards


7/10/2012 2:58:00 PM EDT
[#11]
I use the Hornady reamer as well. I think it was $20 for both the sm and lrg reamers but it was money well spent.
7/10/2012 6:00:31 PM EDT
[#12]
i have the rcbs.  it works really good.  done lots of mil brass.  the pockets are tighter than the commercial stuff.  i like a tight pocket.  primers go in smooth.  best to watch the youtube video on setup
7/10/2012 8:11:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Another method is a Hornady primer crimp reamer with a positive stop chucked in a drill.

Far drill has a PP uniformer in it.

Hornady reamer is about $12, most people already have a drill.


The Dillon is a great tool for a large batch, I use the drill for small batches.


I have both.  I just wait untl I have a "large" batch in the brass bucket and go to town with the Dillon.
I use the uniformed a bit, but the Hornady reamer has been mostly unused since I grabbed the Dillon.
7/11/2012 4:06:53 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm kinda liking the blue Koolaid so I have only used the Dillon swager and it works good.
 
7/11/2012 5:12:00 AM EDT
[#15]
I only have the press mounted RCBS, I would go with either bench mounted Dillon or RCBS. I've also used the cutters. I only swage now.
7/11/2012 6:16:59 AM EDT
[#16]
Reamers in a drill are cheap options that work well

But the bench mounted swagers are best, hands down. I bought my Dillon 600 before RCBS was even making their bench mounted unit. I can say with absolute certainty that the Dillon Swager (and possibly the RCBS bench mounted swager) are much quicker and less "tedious" than any other method.

I have a challenge that I offer to anybody that refutes that claim in any thread I've seen here. It is very simple. Count how many cases you can remove the crimp on in 15 minutes. I did just that with the Dillon when I first got it because I was so amazed how how quick and easy it made the task. I swaged the crimp out of 275 cases in 15 minutes. That is a rate of 1100 cases/hr. After doing that rate for about 45 minutes (I had just shy of 1k rounds to swage) I didn't feel fatigued in any way and I sat down and started priming cases with my trusty Lee priming tool (I did feel fatigued after that).
7/11/2012 12:27:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Dryflash - I was wondering what is it that you are screwing the Hornady primer pocket crimp reamer into to use it in the drill?  I've been using the reamer with the handle and it is tedious to say the least.
7/11/2012 1:24:45 PM EDT
[#18]




Quoted:

Dryflash - I was wondering what is it that you are screwing the Hornady primer pocket crimp reamer into to use it in the drill? I've been using the reamer with the handle and it is tedious to say the least.


http://www.midwayusa.com/product/314848/redding-primer-pocket-uniformer-tool-power-adapter



$3.49

7/11/2012 1:26:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Thank you!
7/11/2012 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#20]
snyguy a 8x32 coupling nut from your local hardware store for $1.50 works great
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