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The Klobb (vz. 61 Skorpion) Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 2 of 19)
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Originally Posted By agb104983: I forget which company made it but somebody made a block that bolts to the back where the stock would attach that has a rail on the top for mounting an optic and then a rail on the back for mounting a stock. I have to go look up which company that was but it said on their website it was discontinued, but it would be nice if somebody made one again or could 3-D print one. The ability to have an RMR or other type a red dot mounted at the back of the receiver would be ideal Custom Smith? |
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/93097/20200628_205541-1481514.jpg I 3D printed my receiver. It's an AR FCG hybrid design.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvbuo24BWEg |
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Originally Posted By N_Parker: Cool thread glad I stumbled across this. I am looking for a threaded upper in 7.65 to complete my build. If anyone has a line on one please let me know. Go here: https://www.czechpoint-usa.com Sign up for notification and be ready to pounce. The threaded upper was in stock last week, for less than an hour. I am waiting to get one too. |
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Originally Posted By ScottXD: Go here: https://www.czechpoint-usa.com Sign up for notification and be ready to pounce. The threaded upper was in stock last week, for less than an hour. I am waiting to get one too. Originally Posted By ScottXD: Originally Posted By N_Parker: Cool thread glad I stumbled across this. I am looking for a threaded upper in 7.65 to complete my build. If anyone has a line on one please let me know. Go here: https://www.czechpoint-usa.com Sign up for notification and be ready to pounce. The threaded upper was in stock last week, for less than an hour. I am waiting to get one too. Already signed up and been signed up. They only got 5 in last week.... they were gone in a flash. |
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It looks like there are 4 threaded .22lr uppers in stock. https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/22lr-vz-61-universal-threaded-conversion-kit/product Act fast |
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Originally Posted By Tolip: It looks like there are 4 threaded .22lr uppers in stock. https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/22lr-vz-61-universal-threaded-conversion-kit/product Act fast Thank you very much. Got my order in. |
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Originally Posted By Tolip: It looks like there are 4 threaded .22lr uppers in stock. https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/22lr-vz-61-universal-threaded-conversion-kit/product Act fast Cool... now just need to grab a few more mags |
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Originally Posted By Tolip: I almost bought one of these uppers just for the mags. I haven't seen mags in stock for a long time. I bought my upper in early/mid dec and they had both .22 uppers and magazines in stock for a short bit. You have to be quick on the trigger when you get the email alert. |
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So I received my .22LR upper and one of the two mags it shipped with will not fit into my lower. It is very tight and will not insert all the way and lock-in. Other mag is perfect. Anyone else ever experience or heard of this issue with the .22LR mags? The mag that inserts properly measures .7385" at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit measures .749" across at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit also has a greater measurement from front to back when measured just above the locking lug, 1.158" vs. 1.149" on the mag that fits. Visually both appear to be identical. I sent a note to the folks at Czechpoint and I am waiting on their reply. EDIT: Hers' the reply I received today: Sorry to hear you are having an issue with your magazine. Let me talk to the factory and I’ll get back to you with a solution. Thank you for taking the measurements, that will help me resolve your issue. 
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Originally Posted By N_Parker: So I received my .22LR upper and one of the two mags it shipped with will not fit into my lower. It is very tight and will not insert all the way and lock-in. Other mag is perfect. Anyone else ever experience or heard of this issue with the .22LR mags? The mag that inserts properly measures .7385" at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit measures .749" across at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit also has a greater measurement from front to back when measure just above the locking lug, 1.158" vs. 1.149" on the mag that fits. Visually both appear to be identical. I sent a note to the folks at Czechpoint and I am waiting on their reply. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/zWctrg.jpg Let me know how it goes. I need to send them an email as well. I bought a 22 upper but haven’t shot it yet. I just went and checked the fitment of my magazines and they are all extremely tight and almost impossible to get in. |
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Originally Posted By agb104983: Let me know how it goes. I need to send them an email as well. I bought a 22 upper but haven’t shot it yet. I just went and checked the fitment of my magazines and they are all extremely tight and almost impossible to get in. Originally Posted By agb104983: Originally Posted By N_Parker: So I received my .22LR upper and one of the two mags it shipped with will not fit into my lower. It is very tight and will not insert all the way and lock-in. Other mag is perfect. Anyone else ever experience or heard of this issue with the .22LR mags? The mag that inserts properly measures .7385" at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit measures .749" across at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit also has a greater measurement from front to back when measure just above the locking lug, 1.158" vs. 1.149" on the mag that fits. Visually both appear to be identical. I sent a note to the folks at Czechpoint and I am waiting on their reply. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/zWctrg.jpg Let me know how it goes. I need to send them an email as well. I bought a 22 upper but haven’t shot it yet. I just went and checked the fitment of my magazines and they are all extremely tight and almost impossible to get in. Received a reply and edited the post above to include their reply. |
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Just got in my Czechpoint vz61. Ordered from reconord. Looking to form 1 mine tonight. Those of you who have gotten back your approved form 1’s, what did you fill in for original manufacturer/importer and address? Did you put czechpoint USA or Czech small arms? Also, what did you input for the barrel length and overall length measurements? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By SubSonic1836: The one thing I don’t love about mine is the plastic safety selector. Who would be interested in a solid metal one? Trying to gauge interest for a potential project. I know I would, depending on cost. From my research prior to recently purchasing my VZ61, the plastic safety is a commonly complained about the thing. I think if you made them and they were a reasonable price, you wouldn’t have any problems selling them. |
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Originally Posted By SubSonic1836: The one thing I don’t love about mine is the plastic safety selector. Who would be interested in a solid metal one? Trying to gauge interest for a potential project. It's funny... I never noticed it was plastic until you mentioned it. Yeah, I'm in for a quality solid metal one. |
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Originally Posted By N_Parker: So I received my .22LR upper and one of the two mags it shipped with will not fit into my lower. It is very tight and will not insert all the way and lock-in. Other mag is perfect. Anyone else ever experience or heard of this issue with the .22LR mags? The mag that inserts properly measures .7385" at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit measures .749" across at it's widest point. The mag that does not fit also has a greater measurement from front to back when measured just above the locking lug, 1.158" vs. 1.149" on the mag that fits. Visually both appear to be identical. I sent a note to the folks at Czechpoint and I am waiting on their reply. EDIT: Hers' the reply I received today: Sorry to hear you are having an issue with your magazine. Let me talk to the factory and I’ll get back to you with a solution. Thank you for taking the measurements, that will help me resolve your issue. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/zWctrg.jpg FOLLOW UP: 2nd response from Czechpoint on the .22LR mags. I have contacted the factory and they did find an issue with some of the magazines bodies. I will be receiving new magazines in the near future, but I’m not exactly sure when. I will swap out any you are having an issue with when I receive them. You can return your magazines now or I can contact you when I have replacements. Let me know how you wish to proceed. |
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Originally Posted By agb104983: I know I would, depending on cost. From my research prior to recently purchasing my VZ61, the plastic safety is a commonly complained about the thing. I think if you made them and they were a reasonable price, you wouldn’t have any problems selling them. I was thinking the same thing. I would need to figure out a price somewhere between “not worth the time and effort” and “nobody wants to pay that!” If you don’t mind I’ll further pick your brain. What would be a reasonable price for you personally? Anyone else feel free to respond. |
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Originally Posted By SubSonic1836: I was thinking the same thing. I would need to figure out a price somewhere between “not worth the time and effort” and “nobody wants to pay that!” If you don’t mind I’ll further pick your brain. What would be a reasonable price for you personally? Anyone else feel free to respond. Originally Posted By SubSonic1836: Originally Posted By agb104983: I know I would, depending on cost. From my research prior to recently purchasing my VZ61, the plastic safety is a commonly complained about the thing. I think if you made them and they were a reasonable price, you wouldn’t have any problems selling them. I was thinking the same thing. I would need to figure out a price somewhere between “not worth the time and effort” and “nobody wants to pay that!” If you don’t mind I’ll further pick your brain. What would be a reasonable price for you personally? Anyone else feel free to respond. Why don't you come back with a cost target that produces quality piece and let everyone chime in in that. What one person might pay is not exactly what the next would pay. |
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Hey guys, I’m attempting to file my form 1 for my Czechpoint vz61. To those who have gotten back your approved form 1’s, what did you fill in for original manufacturer/importer and address? Did you put czechpoint USA or Czech small arms? Did you put the SA in front of vz61 for the model? Also, what did you input for the barrel length and overall length measurements? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
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My 22 mags did not really fit at all right out of the box. This is just a brief synopsis of how I got them to fit properly. First was the front corners which required sanding/filing to get them to slide in the lower. Attached File Next issue was the top ridge on the back of the mag which I used an Exacto knife shave it down, no it's not pretty. Attached File The final issue was the mag catch was not engaging all the way. There was some flash at the seam that I removed with a round file. Mag catch was still not 100% engaged. Filed the catch a little deeper until it engaged without forceful insertion. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ScottXD: My 22 mags did not really fit at all right out of the box. This is just a brief synopsis of how I got them to fit properly. First was the front corners which required sanding/filing to get them to slide in the lower. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/270692/6e0662a5-7cea-4553-b3ea-a3cf865125dd_jpe-1809986.JPG Next issue was the top ridge on the back of the mag which I used an Exacto knife shave it down, no it's not pretty. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/270692/ba49dbc0-9d9c-44a6-b36b-9113e90ee0b3_jpe-1809991.JPG The final issue was the mag catch was not engaging all the way. There was some flash at the seam that I removed with a round file. Mag catch was still not 100% engaged. Filed the catch a little deeper until it engaged without forceful insertion. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/270692/20210202_161115_jpg-1809993.JPG I considered going through the pain to identify the high points and make adjustments. Then I considered what I paid for the upper kit and thought, well lets see what Czechpoint comes back with first. Not sure if you saw my update but they know they have a problem and they are willing to replace the defective mag bodies. At least in my case. |
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Originally Posted By O1gagt: I would be in for two metal safeties. I also got the email about returning the defective mags. I am planning on waiting until they get more in before I send mine back and asking for a return label. They didn't even offer a return label in my correspondence and I specifically asked how shipping would be handled shipping. EDIT: No return label but they said they would refund shipping cost. |
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Well if they don't want the bad ones back now you know what needs to be done. The first one took some time but the second one was easy once I had it sorted out. Still might contact Czechpoint and see if I can snag a couple new ones. |
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Originally Posted By SubSonic1836: The one thing I don’t love about mine is the plastic safety selector. Who would be interested in a solid metal one? Trying to gauge interest for a potential project. I would absolutely buy one, if it was sub 50 tacos. |
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Originally Posted By DeltaOp: Hey guys, I’m attempting to file my form 1 for my Czechpoint vz61. To those who have gotten back your approved form 1’s, what did you fill in for original manufacturer/importer and address? Did you put czechpoint USA or Czech small arms? Did you put the SA in front of vz61 for the model? Also, what did you input for the barrel length and overall length measurements? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I have an older model that's a D-Technik A.S. Czech Republic but model is Sa VZ61 barrel: 4.5" O.A.L.: 19" HTH |
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Originally Posted By kanewtervalve: I have an older model that's a D-Technik A.S. Czech Republic but model is Sa VZ61 barrel: 4.5" O.A.L.: 19" HTH Thank you for the help. I’m still debating whether to use Czechpoint arms or CSA for the manufacturer part. Czechpoint is the importer, but CSA is the manufacturer. |
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If anyone has the ability to buy a dealer sample, one of these is up on Gunbroker. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/890666574 The rest of us peons can sit back and dream under the glow of our government-provided safety. |
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Originally Posted By DeltaOp: Thank you for the help. I’m still debating whether to use Czechpoint arms or CSA for the manufacturer part. Czechpoint is the importer, but CSA is the manufacturer. Originally Posted By DeltaOp: Originally Posted By kanewtervalve: I have an older model that's a D-Technik A.S. Czech Republic but model is Sa VZ61 barrel: 4.5" O.A.L.: 19" HTH Thank you for the help. I’m still debating whether to use Czechpoint arms or CSA for the manufacturer part. Czechpoint is the importer, but CSA is the manufacturer. Mine was approved with: D-Technik, Czech Republic SA VZ61 4.53 20.75 |
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Years ago I did a tutorial on my Skorpion build at the Weapons Guild forum. It is still there. When i started, I think I was planning a re-weld of the receiver, but before I was done I found the Czechmate semi-auto receiver and used that instead. Some might still find it interesting. https://weaponsguild.com/forum/index.php?topic=5159.0 (you might have to be registered on the site to view, but it is a great place for "homebuilders") Rob |
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Isle Mfg has come out with a rail mount that would allow you to run a VFG, light, laser etc. https://islemfg.com/vz-61-lower-1913-rail/ |
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Attached File tagged and will read this tomorrow when I have more time. 22 upper received. one mag seats fine, one is also extremely hard to seat. I need to read more back in this thread to see what ya guys are doing and how czechpoint is handling this. upper ran fine when tested last week tho. mags are a bit difficult to load on your thumbs. would definitely be in for a metal safety. the metal one that comes in the parts kit just needs to be turned down a bit to fit the new receivers but I never got around to asking someone to try it. glad I stumbled across this thread |
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I bought 1 box of a few different ammo's and gave them each a shot. (get it, a shot!) The S&B shot perfect, so I bought more of that. It's amusing that this thing won't take HP, and I got a Seecamp that only takes really short HP. At least my Beretta 81 isn't picky, it'll shoot any of them. I wonder how the tomcats are, since they got a threaded one of them now... So yeah, it was ammo sensitive, but it's great with the ammo it likes and no functional issues at all. |
The Klobb (vz. 61 Skorpion) Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 2 of 19)
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