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6/8/2026 7:00:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vlarg:
Just got my first VZ61.  Been looking at the .22lr uppers given the costs of .32 ACP.  Unfortunately, I love in Colorado so I cant procure the 20 round mags.  Is there a source of 15 round mags?
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Just work out a deal to ship a handful of them to an ARF member in a neighboring state and then take a short road trip to pick them up. They were around long before Commie-rado’s mag ban and they’re not date coded.
6/23/2026 4:33:58 PM EDT
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I have a Tortort that was SBRed and I recently bought a second parts kit. The upper on the first kit installs easily on the receiver and is great, but it has a neutered barrel. I installed an intact surplus barrel on the second parts kit, but it is very difficult to close and push the pivot pin in fully.

Is there an easy fix to this? Should I file a small amount off the back of the upper so it isn't so tight?
7/9/2026 9:15:27 PM EDT
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I finally got around to building a kit on a Czechpoint lower. The lower won't accept the metal safety due to the right side hole not being large enough. Does anyone make a safety that's metal and works with the Czechpoint lower? I couldn't find anything in Google.

The plastic one is just rinky dink and bugs me
7/9/2026 9:49:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ManiacRat:
I finally got around to building a kit on a Czechpoint lower. The lower won't accept the metal safety due to the right side hole not being large enough. Does anyone make a safety that's metal and works with the Czechpoint lower? I couldn't find anything in Google.

The plastic one is just rinky dink and bugs me
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I’ll have to compare the spare I have laying around with the Czechpoint receiver I have on hand but turning down the right side of the selector shouldn’t be too terribly difficult.
7/9/2026 11:21:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cms81586:



I'll have to compare the spare I have laying around with the Czechpoint receiver I have on hand but turning down the right side of the selector shouldn't be too terribly difficult.
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Did some more digging and yeah I think it's about my only option. I modded my FCG to be semi so using the CZ selector isn't an issue.
7/19/2026 5:35:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Is there an alternate takedown pin out there that allows for a quicker swapping of the upper?  I want to be able to quickly swap between a 7.65/32 ACP upper and a .22lr upper.
7/20/2026 8:48:41 AM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By vlarg:
Is there an alternate takedown pin out there that allows for a quicker swapping of the upper?  I want to be able to quickly swap between a 7.65/32 ACP upper and a .22lr upper.
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Not necessarily, but there’s two ways to do it.  You either extend the slot in the takedown Pin using a mill or something similar and extend it out closer to the end.  That way when you pull it out, it pulls out further so that the “end“ of the takedown Pin isn’t still in that slot in the lower receiver, so it can act more like a typical AR15 takedown pin.  

The easier way, and the way that I did it, is you remove the takedown pin from the gun and grind down the tip so it’s pretty much flush with the outside of the receiver when it’s fully inserted, instead of sticking out a little.  You may have to test fitted a few times to get it right, but essentially if you grind off the end of it enough, then there won’t be enough to retain the upper to the lower when it’s pulled out and it will act like a regular AR15 takedown pin.  The only downside of this method is that it won’t be sticking out on the other end so you can’t push the Pin out with your finger anymore. You’ll have to take a bullet tip or punch or screwdriver or something to start popping it out when you take down the gun.
7/24/2026 7:52:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Princeton][Edited] [#8]
I recently picked up a Southern Tactical VZ61 from Atlantic Firearms in .32 acp built on a Tortort receiver.
My initial plan had been to buy a parts kit and build myself, I’ve built plenty of other firearms that I thought this would be another fun project, but I just couldn’t get momentum.
Now that I picked it up from my LGS I’m glad I finally bought one. It’s an awesome little gun.
I still need to source a threaded barrel and some spare magazines to complete it but I’m in no hurry as I want to SBR & add the wire stock too.

Could someone help out with the measurements for the Form 1?

What’s the typical barrel length of the available threaded barrels and what’s the total length with the wire stock extended?

Thanks

Just came back to add another question:

What are the thoughts on the VZ61 threaded barrel from Centerfire that utilize a 1/2x28 thread with a 1-16” twist?

This Barrel ?

If I figure it correctly, as a bonus using a US made barrel and the Tort receiver satisfies the 922r requirements.
7/25/2026 7:06:04 AM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Princeton:
I recently picked up a Southern Tactical VZ61 from Atlantic Firearms in .32 acp built on a Tortort receiver.
My initial plan had been to buy a parts kit and build myself, I’ve built plenty of other firearms that I thought this would be another fun project, but I just couldn’t get momentum.
Now that I picked it up from my LGS I’m glad I finally bought one. It’s an awesome little gun.
I still need to source a threaded barrel and some spare magazines to complete it but I’m in no hurry as I want to SBR & add the wire stock too.

Could someone help out with the measurements for the Form 1?

What’s the typical barrel length of the available threaded barrels and what’s the total length with the wire stock extended?

Thanks

Just came back to add another question:

What are the thoughts on the VZ61 threaded barrel from Centerfire that utilize a 1/2x28 thread with a 1-16” twist?

This Barrel ?

If I figure it correctly, as a bonus using a US made barrel and the Tort receiver satisfies the 922r requirements.
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Nitride barrel is fine.   I would offer to polish its feed ramps before installing - far easier to get at when not in the receiver.   I installed a few on spare parts kits receivers.  I found that they feed better after polishing the feed ramps.  On one it seemed like occasionally would jam from one side of the feeding - A Polish with Dremel and kraytex bit and good to go.

8/1/2026 8:02:06 PM EDT
[#10]
I had to do it...Sounds pretty damn good but is huge and heavy. The Omega 9K is better suited but notably louder.



8/15/2026 1:36:54 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By cms81586:
Gotta keep this thread alive!  Took the faux can from my MKE AP5SD and turned it into a dedicated can for the VZ.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2980/IMG_3557_jpeg-3755060.JPG
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I find myself suddenly drawn to a VZ61 SBR, and the desire to get a threaded .32 setup, and a threaded .22 setup, and that VFG.

Is there a quick and dirty rundown for how to do all of this, or do I have to dig through this thread?
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8/15/2026 7:10:22 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By Princeton:
I recently picked up a Southern Tactical VZ61 from Atlantic Firearms in .32 acp built on a Tortort receiver.
My initial plan had been to buy a parts kit and build myself, I’ve built plenty of other firearms that I thought this would be another fun project, but I just couldn’t get momentum.
Now that I picked it up from my LGS I’m glad I finally bought one. It’s an awesome little gun.
I still need to source a threaded barrel and some spare magazines to complete it but I’m in no hurry as I want to SBR & add the wire stock too.

Could someone help out with the measurements for the Form 1?

What’s the typical barrel length of the available threaded barrels and what’s the total length with the wire stock extended?

Thanks

Just came back to add another question:

What are the thoughts on the VZ61 threaded barrel from Centerfire that utilize a 1/2x28 thread with a 1-16” twist?

This Barrel ?

If I figure it correctly, as a bonus using a US made barrel and the Tort receiver satisfies the 922r requirements.
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Also interested in all of this, in addition to the above.
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8/17/2026 6:28:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Anyone try converting a .32 bolt to .380 by milling out the breech face? The dimensions don't look *too* different.
8/19/2026 3:24:24 PM EDT
[#14]
CzechPoint receivers are now available with the proper dovetail: https://centerfiresystems.com/products/czech-small-arms-vz-61-32-acp-dovetail-semi-auto-receiver
8/19/2026 8:47:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter][Edited] [#15]
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Originally Posted By austinsarmoury:
CzechPoint receivers are now available with the proper dovetail: https://centerfiresystems.com/products/czech-small-arms-vz-61-32-acp-dovetail-semi-auto-receiver
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Between Czechpoint and Tortort (both with the dovetail), which would be a better receiver to build a SBR on?

I Already have a build kit coming, and was focused on the Tortort until I saw the price difference for the Czechpoint.
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8/20/2026 2:11:13 PM EDT
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In a thread over in the Beretta section of the handgun forums, someone posted that they couldn't find any magazines for the Model 80X in 32 ACP.  In reply, someone posted a video of a gentleman using various Beretta Cheetah 380 ACP magazines in a Model 80X in 32 ACP and they all fed the 32 ACP cartridges.  So.....VZ61USA.com has a 33 round drum for the 380 ACP version on the VZ61.  I wonder if that magazine will fit the 32 ACP lower?

Video showing Beretta 80X in 32 ACP firing 380 ACP mags: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7W5BKNx7nsg

Link to VZ61.com's 33 round drum mag: https://www.vz61usa.com/product/vz-61-skorpion-drum-magazine-33-rd-380-acp/
8/21/2026 7:12:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jreinke:
In a thread over in the Beretta section of the handgun forums, someone posted that they couldn't find any magazines for the Model 80X in 32 ACP.  In reply, someone posted a video of a gentleman using various Beretta Cheetah 380 ACP magazines in a Model 80X in 32 ACP and they all fed the 32 ACP cartridges.  So.....VZ61USA.com has a 33 round drum for the 380 ACP version on the VZ61.  I wonder if that magazine will fit the 32 ACP lower?

Video showing Beretta 80X in 32 ACP firing 380 ACP mags: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7W5BKNx7nsg

Link to VZ61.com's 33 round drum mag: https://www.vz61usa.com/product/vz-61-skorpion-drum-magazine-33-rd-380-acp/
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You may want to try the 32 cal mags just to see how close you are.  I have used Beretta 84 and 81 mags nearly interchangeably.  Using an 84 mag on the 81 (32acp) the mag followr doesn't hold slide open on last round but feeds it.  I wonder if the mag could be used with a different follower or opening the lips a little for 380???
8/21/2026 11:03:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jreinke:
In a thread over in the Beretta section of the handgun forums, someone posted that they couldn't find any magazines for the Model 80X in 32 ACP.  In reply, someone posted a video of a gentleman using various Beretta Cheetah 380 ACP magazines in a Model 80X in 32 ACP and they all fed the 32 ACP cartridges.  So.....VZ61USA.com has a 33 round drum for the 380 ACP version on the VZ61.  I wonder if that magazine will fit the 32 ACP lower?

Video showing Beretta 80X in 32 ACP firing 380 ACP mags: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7W5BKNx7nsg

Link to VZ61.com's 33 round drum mag: https://www.vz61usa.com/product/vz-61-skorpion-drum-magazine-33-rd-380-acp/
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lol thats my video showing the beretta mags. small world
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8/22/2026 1:30:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Princeton][Edited] [#19]
To the people still trying to decide if you want a VZ61 I can surely tell you that one of these guns is a must have for any firearm collection. Especially for the price point.
My rough guess is you could probably build one of these for less than $500 or like me buy a really nicely built factory parts  build for around $700.

I had planned to build myself since I do have experience building AR15, AR10, AK47, FAL, M1 Carbine, etc. type firearms and these look as easy as any of those builds.
Honestly, I just didn’t want to troubleshoot so I decided to go prebuilt and if there were issues let the manufacturer figure it out. Luckily, I don’t have to worry since I finally got to shoot mine today and it ran 100% without issues. (Except for the time I didn’t have the magazine locked in properly and when I pulled the trigger the chamber was empty! )

Only got to shoot 50 rounds through it today because the surplus 7.65 ammo I brought was steel core and the range wouldn’t let me shoot it so had to buy a box of their ammo @ $28 a box.

My gun is a SBR and has the overfolding wire stock which looks awesome but realistically isn’t very practical for shooting range work but I’m sure is preferred for covert operations so I’m keeping it for now.

Now that I’m sure it functions I’m gonna swap the surplus barrel for a U.S. threaded barrel so I can use a suppressor next time shooting. Also, by the next time I get out to shoot this I’m gonna have a .22lr conversion upper (also suppressed) to swap in and try which I’m thinking is gonna be equally awesome.

My only problem shooting this gun is its diminutive size and reciprocating charging handles I tend to hold my support hand a little high and hit the handles but it never caused a malfunction this outing, I just have to remember to hold it lower on the mag body.

Also, the 50 rounds I shot today were PMC Bronze 71 grain ammo which I had read some people had issues with but in my gun it was 100% reliable so I’m going to order a couple thousand rounds to stock up on.
8/22/2026 6:20:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Princeton:
To the people still trying to decide if you want a VZ61 I can surely tell you that one of these guns is a must have for any firearm collection. Especially for the price point.
My rough guess is you could probably build one of these for less than $500 or like me buy a really nicely built factory parts  build for around $700.

I had planned to build myself since I do have experience building AR15, AR10, AK47, FAL, M1 Carbine, etc. type firearms and these look as easy as any of those builds.
Honestly, I just didn’t want to troubleshoot so I decided to go prebuilt and if there were issues let the manufacturer figure it out. Luckily, I don’t have to worry since I finally got to shoot mine today and it ran 100% without issues. (Except for the time I didn’t have the magazine locked in properly and when I pulled the trigger the chamber was empty! )

Only got to shoot 50 rounds through it today because the surplus 7.65 ammo I brought was steel core and the range wouldn’t let me shoot it so had to buy a box of their ammo @ $28 a box.

My gun is a SBR and has the overfolding wire stock which looks awesome but realistically isn’t very practical for shooting range work but I’m sure is preferred for covert operations so I’m keeping it for now.

Now that I’m sure it functions I’m gonna swap the surplus barrel for a U.S. threaded barrel so I can use a suppressor next time shooting. Also, by the next time I get out to shoot this I’m gonna have a .22lr conversion upper (also suppressed) to swap in and try which I’m thinking is gonna be equally awesome.

My only problem shooting this gun is its diminutive size and reciprocating charging handles I tend to hold my support hand a little high and hit the handles but it never caused a malfunction this outing, I just have to remember to hold it lower on the mag body.

Also, the 50 rounds I shot today were PMC Bronze 71 grain ammo which I had read some people had issues with but in my gun it was 100% reliable so I’m going to order a couple thousand rounds to stock up on.
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Re your hand hitting the charging handles, get an extended one and only run it on the right side. Nothing on the left. I grip the mag and my thumb rests up next to the front sight
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8/22/2026 7:30:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Princeton][Edited] [#21]
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Originally Posted By evnash:


Re your hand hitting the charging handles, get an extended one and only run it on the right side. Nothing on the left. I grip the mag and my thumb rests up next to the front sight
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I kind of wanted to keep it original but honestly it never occurred to me to do what you’re suggesting. Also, the factory charging nubs are so small they are kind of difficult to manipulate while keeping any type of shooting posture. I do think a single sided extended charge handle is in my future.


One quick question I just remembered, what function does the large cross pin above the trigger serve?
The one that keeps falling out every time I open the VZ61 for cleaning and lubing the gun.

Is it really supposed to fall out so easily when the action is opened?

I could totally see it falling out, me not noticing and closing the gun without it being installed. Would that be bad?
8/23/2026 3:52:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Princeton:

My gun is a SBR and has the overfolding wire stock which looks awesome but realistically isn't very practical for shooting range work but I'm sure is preferred for covert operations so I'm keeping it for now.

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These aren't meant to be practical, they're meant to be really fun to shoot and look cool while doing it
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8/23/2026 4:18:04 PM EDT
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The folding Vz58 stock fits the “vibe” aesthetically and feels really solid.
8/24/2026 5:07:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter][Edited] [#24]
I just picked up a threaded barrel for my kit, and realize there’s no shoulder on the barrel for the suppressor.  What solutions is everyone else using for this, to not overthread a direct mount suppressor? Or are folks doing some sort of 1/2x28 to tri lug adapter that stays on somehow?

And if you had the complete .32 kit already, what would you buy first—a threaded .22 upper, or a lower receiver?  (If both were in stock).

Also, Czechpoint or Tortort for receivers, if both have the milled in stock slot?
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8/24/2026 6:10:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:
I just picked up a threaded barrel for my kit, and realize there's no shoulder on the barrel for the suppressor.  What solutions is everyone else using for this, to not overthread a direct mount suppressor? Or are folks doing some sort of 1/2x28 to tri lug adapter that stays on somehow?

And if you had the complete .32 kit already, what would you buy first a threaded .22 upper, or a lower receiver?  (If both were in stock).

Also, Czechpoint or Tortort for receivers, if both have the milled in stock slot?
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If you google someone makes a trilug specifically for this application.
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8/24/2026 8:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter][Edited] [#26]
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Originally Posted By AR4U:
If you google someone makes a trilug specifically for this application.
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Originally Posted By AR4U:
Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:
I just picked up a threaded barrel for my kit, and realize there's no shoulder on the barrel for the suppressor.  What solutions is everyone else using for this, to not overthread a direct mount suppressor? Or are folks doing some sort of 1/2x28 to tri lug adapter that stays on somehow?

And if you had the complete .32 kit already, what would you buy first a threaded .22 upper, or a lower receiver?  (If both were in stock).

Also, Czechpoint or Tortort for receivers, if both have the milled in stock slot?
If you google someone makes a trilug specifically for this application.

Hot damn, you’re right!  Thank you!

ETA:  and now just the “which receiver” and “receiver vs. .22 upper” questions remain
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8/24/2026 11:44:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

Hot damn, you're right!  Thank you!

ETA:  and now just the "which receiver" and "receiver vs. .22 upper" questions remain
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:
Originally Posted By AR4U:
Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:
I just picked up a threaded barrel for my kit, and realize there's no shoulder on the barrel for the suppressor.  What solutions is everyone else using for this, to not overthread a direct mount suppressor? Or are folks doing some sort of 1/2x28 to tri lug adapter that stays on somehow?

And if you had the complete .32 kit already, what would you buy first a threaded .22 upper, or a lower receiver?  (If both were in stock).

Also, Czechpoint or Tortort for receivers, if both have the milled in stock slot?
If you google someone makes a trilug specifically for this application.

Hot damn, you're right!  Thank you!

ETA:  and now just the "which receiver" and "receiver vs. .22 upper" questions remain
Chefur is the most expensive,  most like the original and most customizable.  It also can use the rate reducer, if you're into that sort of thing.  I would have bought this one if I knew about it at the time.

Tortort seems kind of the default.  Czechpoint uses some weird plastic safety and is drilled so it can't use the normal one.

ETA you can also 3d print one that takes AR15 parts and a FRT.
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8/25/2026 8:44:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AR4U:
Chefur is the most expensive,  most like the original and most customizable.  It also can use the rate reducer, if you're into that sort of thing.  I would have bought this one if I knew about it at the time.

Tortort seems kind of the default.  Czechpoint uses some weird plastic safety and is drilled so it can't use the normal one.

ETA you can also 3d print one that takes AR15 parts and a FRT.
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Is there a benefit to having the rate reduced on a semi?  Is there a drawback to not having it?

The Tortort was how I was leaning for a while; including a stock slot will be a benefit for after I efile a form 1.  I saw a Czechpoint the other day at an LGS, and their finish and markings both seemed strange.  Plus, their tendency to just bolt on the stock slot seems unwise.

The 3D print option is out; no access to one.
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8/25/2026 8:45:59 AM EDT
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No benefit to the rate reducer, other than it is a neat feature of this little subgun.
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8/25/2026 3:38:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

Is there a benefit to having the rate reduced on a semi?  Is there a drawback to not having it?

The Tortort was how I was leaning for a while; including a stock slot will be a benefit for after I efile a form 1.  I saw a Czechpoint the other day at an LGS, and their finish and markings both seemed strange.  Plus, their tendency to just bolt on the stock slot seems unwise.

The 3D print option is out; no access to one.
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The Czech receiver can be bought either way now. With the proper dovetail or the adapter
8/25/2026 3:42:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
The Czech receiver can be bought either way now. With the proper dovetail or the adapter
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Good to know.

With that, how do it and the Tortort compare to each other, especially if I want to SBR it?
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8/26/2026 8:46:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: EagleArmsHBAR][Edited] [#32]
I tried some Winchester white box 32 in mine yesterday and it had feeding issues.  I only fired about six rounds at the range. Got it home and used a file on the barrel to knock down the edge that the bullets were dragging on. After that, I chambered a round and it locked the gun up.

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Where did you file?  Can you share pictures?
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I took it out today and fired 36 rounds of S&B surplus with zero malfunctions! It appears that I have fixed it!


I very lightly filed the edge of the feed lip and that area of the barrel where there was a sharp edge and brass marks from the bullet jacket (in the blue circle). It's kind of hard to see my file marks, but it made all the difference. I did not attempt to shoot any of the Winchester 32 acp today, but I was having issues with S&B before the above modification.

I was also having issues with the bolt dragging on the receiver and not being as slick as I wanted it. I think this added to the feeding issues. I believe I slightly bent the upper while mounting the barrel. I fixed that issue by putting the upper receiver on an anvil so that the bottom was square and smaked the top of it with a rubber mallet about ten times. That squared it up and I'm happy now.



9/1/2026 12:26:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

Good to know.

With that, how do it and the Tortort compare to each other, especially if I want to SBR it?
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
The Czech receiver can be bought either way now. With the proper dovetail or the adapter

Good to know.

With that, how do it and the Tortort compare to each other, especially if I want to SBR it?
To be honest I'm not really sure. I'm new to these and waiting for the Czech receiver to become available again.
What I think I know is.
The factory Czech receiver is supposed to be pretty much plug and play with no fitting. The one major downside for some seems to be it comes with a plastic safety selector that must be used. The receiver is made so the original selector can not be used. I believe there may have been some over rotation issues with the original selector that would allow guns to fire when they appeared to be on safe.
The Tortort I believe is a more clone correct receiver. It has the proper selector markings and allows use of the original metal selector. I also believe they were the first to have the proper milled rear for the stock. They may need minor fitting. But I'm not sure if that's still a thing.
Hopefully I didn't mess that up to bad.
9/6/2026 3:24:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
To be honest I'm not really sure. I'm new to these and waiting for the Czech receiver to become available again.
What I think I know is.
The factory Czech receiver is supposed to be pretty much plug and play with no fitting. The one major downside for some seems to be it comes with a plastic safety selector that must be used. The receiver is made so the original selector can not be used. I believe there may have been some over rotation issues with the original selector that would allow guns to fire when they appeared to be on safe.
The Tortort I believe is a more clone correct receiver. It has the proper selector markings and allows use of the original metal selector. I also believe they were the first to have the proper milled rear for the stock. They may need minor fitting. But I'm not sure if that's still a thing.
Hopefully I didn't mess that up to bad.
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For what it’s worth, the Czechpoint with milled stock slot came back in stock at Atlantic, but was $375.  I winced at the price but ordered one anyway, so I can efile a Form 1 while the price is right and build this thing up.

@rgb03
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9/6/2026 9:11:13 AM EDT
[#35]
FRT for VZ61?

Has anyone tried this?  Or more FRT snake oil?

https://3dptacsol.com/product/vz-61-frt-pet-cf-6-pack/
9/6/2026 9:38:52 AM EDT
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I ordered a 6pk. No Idea how to install one or if it will work with an otherwise standard build. I'm in a holding pattern until receivers come back in stock.
9/6/2026 9:57:03 AM EDT
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The file is available for free on Odysee.
Doesn't work in my early TortTort marked receiver.
Has a lot of potential but needs changes to work in every receiver.
9/6/2026 7:40:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Worked on my printed lower. You may have to fit the hole to your safety and the side of the hammer must be smooth. Only run about 60 rounds so far so not sure how long it will last. Printed mine out of PAHT-CF
9/6/2026 9:45:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

For what it's worth, the Czechpoint with milled stock slot came back in stock at Atlantic, but was $375.  I winced at the price but ordered one anyway, so I can efile a Form 1 while the price is right and build this thing up.

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Thank you
But I think I'll wait to see what happens with vz61usa.
They had the same receiver but with the trigger guard already riveted for $361 before they went OOS
9/7/2026 1:20:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
Thank you
But I think I'll wait to see what happens with vz61usa.
They had the same receiver but with the trigger guard already riveted for $361 before they went OOS
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

For what it's worth, the Czechpoint with milled stock slot came back in stock at Atlantic, but was $375.  I winced at the price but ordered one anyway, so I can efile a Form 1 while the price is right and build this thing up.

@rgb03
Thank you
But I think I'll wait to see what happens with vz61usa.
They had the same receiver but with the trigger guard already riveted for $361 before they went OOS

That thought occurred to me after my purchase

But the same non-riveted TG receiver was $319 previously.  

I’m just gonna see what I can manage for that rivet.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
9/7/2026 8:59:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By drcwv78:
Worked on my printed lower. You may have to fit the hole to your safety and the side of the hammer must be smooth. Only run about 60 rounds so far so not sure how long it will last. Printed mine out of PAHT-CF
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9/7/2026 9:07:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By drcwv78:
Worked on my printed lower. You may have to fit the hole to your safety and the side of the hammer must be smooth. Only run about 60 rounds so far so not sure how long it will last. Printed mine out of PAHT-CF
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The issue on my torttort receiver have more to do with difference between it and the printed receiver FCG pockets. The v1 had over travel issues (jams the bolt) and the later fixes for the over travel don't fit the FCG pocket.
So ya, it depends on your receiver.
9/7/2026 9:03:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

That thought occurred to me after my purchase

But the same non-riveted TG receiver was $319 previously.  

I'm just gonna see what I can manage for that rivet.
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I saw that. It appeared to be on sale for while. I almost bought one but wasn't really crazy about the bolt on stock adapter. And figured for an extra $45 I could have the proper milled back end and the trigger guard was done.
Honestly I think you can get away with not riveting it in place. It hooks into the receiver and the grip holds it in place.
But obviously nicer if it's riveted.
9/7/2026 11:54:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
I saw that. It appeared to be on sale for while. I almost bought one but wasn't really crazy about the bolt on stock adapter. And figured for an extra $45 I could have the proper milled back end and the trigger guard was done.
Honestly I think you can get away with not riveting it in place. It hooks into the receiver and the grip holds it in place.
But obviously nicer if it's riveted.
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

That thought occurred to me after my purchase

But the same non-riveted TG receiver was $319 previously.  

I'm just gonna see what I can manage for that rivet.
I saw that. It appeared to be on sale for while. I almost bought one but wasn't really crazy about the bolt on stock adapter. And figured for an extra $45 I could have the proper milled back end and the trigger guard was done.
Honestly I think you can get away with not riveting it in place. It hooks into the receiver and the grip holds it in place.
But obviously nicer if it's riveted.

The Czechpoint ones can come milled in these days, or at least it appears that way:

Atlantic

I’ll find out when I go pick it up.  But you’re right, it did used to be cheaper.

I should probably stop buying parts for this build before I figure out solutions to things like “how am I gonna rivet the trigger guard in place”, and “I hope the threaded barrel I bought fits in the receiver properly”
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
9/8/2026 9:42:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Seven-Shooter:

The Czechpoint ones can come milled in these days, or at least it appears that way:

Atlantic

I'll find out when I go pick it up.  But you're right, it did used to be cheaper.

I should probably stop buying parts for this build before I figure out solutions to things like "how am I gonna rivet the trigger guard in place", and "I hope the threaded barrel I bought fits in the receiver properly"
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The last batch Atlantic had for 319 were the ones that had the threaded rear and came with the adapter. So at least you can feel better you got the proper milled rear for the higher cost. If thats the receiver you wanted
9/18/2026 1:33:36 PM EDT
[#46]
New batch of .32acp receivers with the milled rear in stock at Centerfire
For $319
9/19/2026 10:21:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
New batch of .32acp receivers with the milled rear in stock at Centerfire
For $319
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So they told me when I picked up my transferred one.  D’oh!  
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9/19/2026 10:40:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
New batch of .32acp receivers with the milled rear in stock at Centerfire
For $319
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Funny how much the AR15 addiction is spilling over to my VZ61 habit.
I bought a complete VZ61, did the SBR thing to add the wire stock and totally love it.
Realized how much better it’d be with a .22 LR upper since .32 ammo ain’t exactly cheap. Now that the rimfire upper is on its way I’m already thinking maybe I should skip the swapping uppers thing and just build a new SBR lower so I can have 2 VZ61s.
9/19/2026 11:14:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Princeton:


Funny how much the AR15 addiction is spilling over to my VZ61 habit.
I bought a complete VZ61, did the SBR thing to add the wire stock and totally love it.
Realized how much better it’d be with a .22 LR upper since .32 ammo ain’t exactly cheap. Now that the rimfire upper is on its way I’m already thinking maybe I should skip the swapping uppers thing and just build a new SBR lower so I can have 2 VZ61s.
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I'm in the exact same boat, and I've been trying to consolidate my collection.
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9/19/2026 11:59:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Princeton:


Funny how much the AR15 addiction is spilling over to my VZ61 habit.
I bought a complete VZ61, did the SBR thing to add the wire stock and totally love it.
Realized how much better it’d be with a .22 LR upper since .32 ammo ain’t exactly cheap. Now that the rimfire upper is on its way I’m already thinking maybe I should skip the swapping uppers thing and just build a new SBR lower so I can have 2 VZ61s.
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Are you me?  I just ordered a .22 upper, and before I’ve even built or e-filed my .32 setup, I’m wondering if I need a second lower.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

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