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1/27/2010 6:51:23 PM EDT
I'm sure this has been covered many times before, but I looked and couldn't find the answers.  I'm buying a suppressor, that belongs to an individual on a Form 4 in a different state.  He's telling me that he has to apply to ATF, pay his $200.00 and wait to be approved, before he can ship this item to my Class 3 in my state.  I know from there, I have to do the paperwork before I can receive the suppressor.  I guess I don't understand why an individual, that has a stamp and has jumped thru the hoops, cannot transfer to a Class 3 that has also jumped thru the hoops.  Is the process from individual to Dealer, quicker than Dealer to individual?  I am still fairly new to Class 3 and this may just be the way it is.  Thanks for your help.
1/27/2010 7:02:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Out of state to you SOT, (1) $200 transfer, then SOT will transfer to you via tax paid registration-transfer using ATF 5320.4.

Been that way forever.

out of state on a form-3. will come to your SOT tax free, then to you tax paid.
1/27/2010 7:03:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Federal gun laws require that interstate sales go through a dealer in the state where the buyer resides. And under federal law, a suppressor is a firearm. Same as when you buy a handgun or rifle.

But for NFA items, that means that for an interstate sale of a suppressor, it must go from the seller in another state to an FFL/SOT dealer in your state, via a $200-tax-due Form 4, and then from your in-state dealer to you via a second, $200-tax-due Form 4.

That's the way federal law is set up.
1/27/2010 7:27:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks, that's how he was explaining it.  Does the transfer from the individual in another state, to my class 3 take the same amount of time as the dealer to me.  My first can from this dealer went thru in under 45 days, that was a couple of years ago.  Just wondering if I'm looking at 3 monthe + 3 months before its in my hands.  Thanks again.
1/27/2010 7:46:27 PM EDT
[#4]
A transfer from an individual to a dealer is slightly shorter than a transfer from a dealer to an individual. But given today's turnaround times, if ATF completes both transfers in 6 months, you're doing really good. Unfortunately, times for all sorts of transfers have slowed down.
1/27/2010 8:03:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Unless you are getting a hell of a deal, it is probably cheaper to buy one from a manufacturer (who can ship to your sot tax free) and not have to pay 2 taxes
1/28/2010 3:06:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Unless you are getting a hell of a deal, it is probably cheaper to buy one from a manufacturer (who can ship to your sot tax free) and not have to pay 2 taxes


+1

Its really hard to justify selling a suppressor across state-lines for that reason. Either the seller, or the buyer (or maybe both) is going to get screwed because you instantly have $400 worth of taxes just on the transfer of it. I would recommend just getting one from a dealer or manufacturer on a Form 3 (then Form 4 to you) so there is only 1 tax involved.
1/28/2010 5:28:07 AM EDT
[#7]
This guy is covering the first transfer and the price is good.  The only thing I would save is a little time.  The rifle is currently getting rebarreled so a few more months won't kill me.  Thanks for the responses.
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