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8/19/2010 10:00:07 AM EDT
I was wondering if anybody had any experience using this ammo?  Looks hard to beat for the price.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=ATU308FMJ&groupid=26
8/19/2010 10:44:37 AM EDT
[#1]
i may grab some myself.
8/19/2010 2:10:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Plinking, closer range drills.  NOT match type.  My Scout ate the russian stuff reliably, a few cracked necks (silver bear), nothing special or too scary.
8/19/2010 2:27:17 PM EDT
[#3]
i wouldn't use that junk in your M1a's
8/19/2010 4:19:15 PM EDT
[#4]




Quoted:

i wouldn't use that junk in your M1a's




And...this is the million dollar question for me.  The price is very tempting.
8/19/2010 4:25:43 PM EDT
[#5]
I was shootng Wolf (Tula) .308 out of my LRB-M25 and getting <1.5 MOA 10 rd groups at 100 yards.

Not bad for the 3.50/box I paid a couple years ago.
8/19/2010 4:41:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
i wouldn't use that junk in your M1a's


This, I paid $1700+ for this NM, I ain't taking chances
8/19/2010 4:49:08 PM EDT
[#7]
I am curious on why this is junk?  Is it the steel case? Made by Wolf?  Has anybody had steel cased ammo cause damage to their weapon?
8/19/2010 8:05:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I am curious on why this is junk?  Is it the steel case? Made by Wolf?  Has anybody had steel cased ammo cause damage to their weapon?


The whole fear comes from the fact that it isn't brass, and isn't domestic. Coupled with the fact that everyone freaks out about russian .223 and how it is terrible weapon destroying ammo.

It works fine for me
8/20/2010 11:06:52 AM EDT
[#9]
if we are talking specifically Tula ammo, they apparently offer no warranty protection if the ammo blows up your gone.  happened on here to a guy with his new hk45.  just passing on the paranoia.  Wolf on the other hand im pretty sure does have a warranty for their ammo
8/20/2010 12:49:57 PM EDT
[#10]
I always didn't like com bloc ammo because of the bullets (not the case) are steel and often has little copper gliding material.  This leaves steel on steel in the barrel after a few inches and will accelerate the wear of the rifling.  

For an expensive gun, your barrel life may be worth more than this ammo.  

For a cheap gun, maybe it is better to blast away.

edit: source:

From the ammo oracle mirror...

Q. Will steel-jacketed bullets wear out my barrel?

Steel-jacketed bullets are always plated with a layer of copper to help protect the bore of the gun.  There should be minimal extra wear in a rifle with a chrome-plated bore, but many people are of the opinion that steel-jacketed bullets should be avoided in non-chromed barrels.

http://www.razoreye.net/mirror/ammo-oracle/
8/20/2010 1:42:06 PM EDT
[#11]
put it this way...
i wouldn't run regular unleaded in a Ferrari.

to me my guns are top priority. not investment flipping, but i want them fed the best fodder i can get.
don't cheap out... it may cost ya more later.
8/20/2010 4:18:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Steel case ammo is hard on extractors. M1A extractors are not cheap anymore. Save a few bucks on ammo. Spend that savings on extractors. There is some deals here and there on good foreign ball ammo. With brass case's. I stick to that. For the most part my rifle's see only handloads with match bullets.
8/20/2010 10:20:05 PM EDT
[#13]
i believe the extractor wear thing to be a myth based on the endless discussions ive read on the AR threads regarding steel cased ammo, although is your chamber is on the small side and is getting stuck cases than ya that would work the extractor harder
8/21/2010 7:02:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Extractors are hardened and tempered. Steel ammo cases are so soft that they are barely even steel. Your extractor will not be harmed by the rim of a steel case.
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