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Posted: 2/14/2011 1:00:21 PM EDT
| What do dealers typically charge for a transfer coming from out of state? I'm used to paying $15 to $30 for a regular FFL transfer, but don't know what to expect for NFA. Thanks. |
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I've seen them from a low of $25 to a high of 10% of the price of the gun or $100, whichever is more... in the same town. Damn. I wouldn't even give them the time of day. Wonder how they decide what the gun is worth? Cause I've gotten some good deals on stuff. 
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If it's something my dealer can get. it's 60 Bux. BUT he handles EVERYTHING from signatures if you go individual to completing paperwork. Will He charges $60 just to order an NFA item on top of his profit? I hate dealers that pull that crap. There's a dealer in Houston that charges a transfer fee, documentation feel, plus his profit on the item. It's a load of crap. It takes 3 minutes to fill out a F4. |
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$50 is what I typically pay and I think it is very reasonable .. its not only the SOT's time filling out the form and handling the transfer .. but he is responsible for safe storage of the item until the transfer is approved to you.
I don't know about any of you .. but $50 is damn cheap when you look at the big picture! 
any more than that and I'll shop elsewhere for transfers .. (i'm not going to make some f*ck get rich off paperwork) |
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I've had 4 dealers I have dealt with. First was $100 or 10%. This dealer did not work out for me and I don't even go to that shop anymore. My fav dealer has only had his Class 3(prob not the right term) for maybe a year or so. They do not do NFA transfers from other dealers or special orders. They say too much headache and they do not have enough storage space. I understand this but was kind of put off by this at first but only because their customer service is great and I wanted the same high level of service for my NFA transfers as they gave me on all my other transfers. Another is $50 but it seems it takes 3x as long for form 3s to get approved for them. No idea why. Fourth is a guy that works out of his house. He charges $85 but is very friendly and is welling to do what ever he can to help things along. He also shows me his own toys when I pick my stuff up which is worth the extra money it self. There was another shop about a hour from me that wanted $200. Needless to say I laughed and never used him.
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The only shop I knew of in my area that does NFA transfers wanted $200. A little digging revealed a custom shop and a couple guys with home shops charging $100.
Big difference between the two home guys: the first one is extremely meticulous, double-checks every single piece of paper including trust work and schedule A, helps you examine the gun, seals it in a breathable bag and has you initial the seams (so you are reassured that your gun isn't going to the range or having parts swapped while you wait for the transfer), puts together the whole package with all docs/trust docs in an addressed envelope so that you simply have to add a check and mail. The second guy handed me the filled out Form 4's and basically said "here ya go", though there was an addressed envelope. No cross check of anything. No involvement of checking trust dates were correct and all needed schedules attached. No sealing of gun. I discovered later that he'd put an extra word in my trust name on the forms, even though I'd written him with the correct one. I used whiteout to correct. Both are great guys, but guess which one made me feel like he earned his $100 (per item, and I did multiples with both), and was serious about making sure I had a smooth transfer. I'm sure the second felt he did what was necessary to do his job, and he basically did...and his approach may well be closer to the norm. I can say that if I didn't know the mechanics of a transfer/what is required, and if I didn't check his work, I'd not have found out until a few months later when it bounced. Either the first guy's too cheap, or the second too expensive. Try to talk to others who've used a dealer to ask how they felt things were handled. Almost any shmo can handle a simple transfer of a semi; Title II stuff seems to require some knowledge and attention to detail. |
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I've seen them from a low of $25 to a high of 10% of the price of the gun or $100, whichever is more... in the same town. Damn. I wouldn't even give them the time of day. Wonder how they decide what the gun is worth? Cause I've gotten some good deals on stuff. It's not an issue as they don't do many transfers. |
I wouldn't pay anything over $50. I'd rather waste my time and money driving out of my way than pay 10% of the purchase price or even $100.00 to a person just taking advantage of having to use a C3 dealer for out of state transfers. So a guy buys a M60E4 for 35K 10% = $3500!!! HAHAHA I wish somebody would of told me 10% so I could call them a douche For a good dealer it takes about 3 min to fill our a F4 have a double sided printer, and sign them.
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Honestly, I'm a little surprised that some dealers would only charge $50. Don't they have to store the gun for you while the transfer takes place? I don't know that I'd want to have the liability of possessing a $35,000 M60 for 6 months and only have $50 for the trouble.
On the other hand, 10% seems excessive. That's actually what I was quoted from a local C3 and it's what got me started thinking about the question. |
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Honestly, I'm a little surprised that some dealers would only charge $50. Don't they have to store the gun for you while the transfer takes place? I don't know that I'd want to have the liability of possessing a $35,000 M60 for 6 months and only have $50 for the trouble. On the other hand, 10% seems excessive. That's actually what I was quoted from a local C3 and it's what got me started thinking about the question. I'm going to guess 99% of the transfer that take place involve $1,000 or less suppressors or AOW's. |
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Honestly, I'm a little surprised that some dealers would only charge $50. Don't they have to store the gun for you while the transfer takes place? I don't know that I'd want to have the liability of possessing a $35,000 M60 for 6 months and only have $50 for the trouble. On the other hand, 10% seems excessive. That's actually what I was quoted from a local C3 and it's what got me started thinking about the question. I don't think there are any extra liability's for a shop to store a high value item. Most dealers I know/use have other high $$ items around as well. I just think some dealers see this a a $$ making scheme, which there is nothing wrong with that if they so chose to be like that, I just would not use them and motivate others not to as well, for anything. I had a guy in NM tell me if I'm buying such expensive toys I could most likely pay the $100 per transfer. Well I found another guy for $50 a pop, then he gave me a deal for multiples. So in the end the $100 dollar a transfer guy lost out on quite a few hundred of dollars to the reasonable person, who I brought about 4 of my buddies that I convinced they needed some SBR's!
Any dealer charging 10% or over $50 for a transfer are like the gas stations near the airport who add a dollar to the price of a gallon of gas. IMO, but then again I may be a bit bitter towards unscrupulous dealers. |
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My first guy use to charge $150 and I was dumb enough and new enought that I probably bought 8-9 items from him. Then I found a guy a couple hours away that only charged me $50 a transfer. Needs less to say I've never been back in the first guys store again. And I was so happy with the second (UpState Armory) guy that I purchased a pistol from him (even thought I could have found it cheaper) just to help him out on his in store sales. Now if I have a transfer I wait on him to do a local gun show to bring me my gun. Any one in SC should check these guys out.
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Local place here charges a $100 fee for transfers, and MSRP on NFA stuff like cans and anything they can order... Luckily, I'm in tight with a dealer that will order my cans and everything else for cost, and NO transfer fee... Its nice to have friends that can do that for you, but most people do it to be in business, so they'd have to make something off them.
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Place in Delray Florida charges $200.00 transfer fee!!!
I started cracking up over the phone when they said that. I asked why so much? The guy says well it's alot of work! (maybe it is alot of paper pushing on their end, I'm not a dealer i dont know but damn $200!!!) |
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I do Not consider anything over $50 to be reasonable!!! I do not need to recoup my $530 lisc cost in 2 or 3 transferrs. I have to do 11 a yr to pay for the FFL/Class 3. Some times I do and some time I don't - BFD! I have the class 3 for other purposes.
I charge $20 to do a normal FFL transaction - customer finds what he wants, pays for it and I order it for him. I make $20. That equates out to about $100 an hr wages. I'm happy and so is he. Course I am probably a bit behind the times in all this cause I'm still doing business like I did when I started 36 yrs ago. Sarge |
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Place in Delray Florida charges $200.00 transfer fee!!! I started cracking up over the phone when they said that. I asked why so much? The guy says well it's alot of work! (maybe it is alot of paper pushing on their end, I'm not a dealer i dont know but damn $200!!!) The have to fill out the forms and make 2 bound book entries. It's not a lot of work on their end. A lot of people are ignorant about NFA. Crappy dealers take advantage of that. It may work for them in the short run, but I'd rather be reasonable and have a lot of $40-50 transfers than be an ass and have 1-2 $200 transfers. |
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Really? Damn. $500? Must really not want to do any transfers, or he has people who don't know any better to pay that kind of fee. That or he just wanted me to pay for his SOT that year. At those rates he must only get one transfer a year. If he gets that.
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