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Posted: 1/29/2017 9:25:05 PM EDT
| Anyone know why EAGLE no longer commercially sells the FIBLE Assault Pack system? I can find old links of Eagle selling it but now it seems the only way to get it is resale on Ebay. |
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Eagle has some awesome gear...that they never sell commercially.
Its absurd. ALthough...they wouldn't have the commercial sales they had when the war was hot. They would still have good sales if they made any attempt at marketing. Even the Yote pack...that would sell like crazy. I wouldn't have one except for a buddy that was getting out of the Teams and passed along a surplus one. Awesome pack...but hard to come by. |
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IMHO, the FILBE Assault pack is no great shakes. It's on the level of the MOLLE Assault pack, and the ILBE Assault pack. All of them mostly small sacks with almost no internal organization features. None of them remarkable.
If you want a pretty good Assault pack, then try to find an ILBE Recon/Corpsman pack. It's a little bit longer than the aforementioned assault packs, has a compartment at the bottom for summer-type sleeping gear, and has a load-bearing waist belt, which makes a HUGE difference in user comfort. They are collectible, and so, not cheap unless one gets lucky. As far as Eagle goes, they make stuff for the Mil now, and the civvy market is a very secondary outlet for them. They make stuff nowadays to meet mil-spec, but there are many companies that exceed such specs. For example, the BAE/Eclipse gear on SALE at BAE/Eclipse totally blows away Eagle or other minimum-standard mil-spec gear. I have recommended this stuff for a long time here, and have yet to hear a negative comment on the BAE/SDS gear. Some commenters have made mention on how well the gear is made compared to the stuff they have bought from other mfrs. YMMV. I buy BAE/Eclipse stuff from that Site on a fairly regular basis. Note that the UCP and ABU item are offered at a further discount, and these items are easily dyed using RIT Dye. See my thread here:On Dyeing With Rit Dye Disclaimer; no financial interest Note Edited to correct mistake of mentioning BAE/SDS when I intended to mention/recommend BAE/Eclipse. My apologies for my mistake. The BAE Eclipse stuff is great gear, and do have a look at the corrected link. |
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IMHO, the FILBE Assault pack is no great shakes. It's on the level of the MOLLE Assault pack, and the ILBE Assault pack. All of them mostly small sacks with almost no internal organization features. None of them remarkable. If you want a pretty good Assault pack, then try to find an ILBE Recon/Corpsman pack. It's a little bit longer than the aforementioned assault packs, has a compartment at the bottom for summer-type sleeping gear, and has a load-bearing waist belt, which makes a HUGE difference in user comfort. They are collectible, and so, not cheap unless one gets lucky. As far as Eagle goes, they make stuff for the Mil now, and the civvy market is a very secondary outlet for them. They make stuff nowadays to meet mil-spec, but there are many companies that exceed such specs. For example, the BAE/SDS gear on SALE at BAE/SDS Gear totally blows away Eagle or other minimum-standard mil-spec gear. I have recommended this stuff for a long time here, and have yet to hear a negative comment on the BAE/SDS gear. Some commenters have made mention on how well the gear is made compared to the stuff they have bought from other mfrs. YMMV. I buy BAE/SDS stuff from that Site on a fairly regular basis. Note that the UCP and ABU item are offered at a further discount, and these items are easily dyed using RIT Dye. See my thread here:On Dyeing With Rit Dye Disclaimer; no financial interest You're claiming that BAE/SDS is better quality than Eagle Industries? The BAESDS garbage looks like typical US Military issue trash with single stitching, tons of failure points, no attention-to-detail, no pursuit of excellence. I've been a gear collector and end-user, as well as fabicator for many decades, and there aren't a lot of companies that come close to Eagle when looking at quality. The site you linked shows garbage products like we were issued, not anything even close to Eagle Industries. Example of typical general issue crap pouches: 
Notice the difference in Eagle: 
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You're claiming that BAE/SDS is better quality than Eagle Industries? The BAESDS garbage looks like typical US Military issue trash with single stitching, tons of failure points, no attention-to-detail, no pursuit of excellence. I've been a gear collector and end-user, as well as fabicator for many decades, and there aren't a lot of companies that come close to Eagle when looking at quality. The site you linked shows garbage products like we were issued, not anything even close to Eagle Industries. Example of typical general issue crap pouches: https://www.entrygear.com/productimages/SDS%20SAW%20Gunner%20Set%20woodland.jpg Notice the difference in Eagle: https://www.entrygear.com/productimages/MLCS%20100RD%20khaki.jpg Quoted:
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IMHO, the FILBE Assault pack is no great shakes. It's on the level of the MOLLE Assault pack, and the ILBE Assault pack. All of them mostly small sacks with almost no internal organization features. None of them remarkable. If you want a pretty good Assault pack, then try to find an ILBE Recon/Corpsman pack. It's a little bit longer than the aforementioned assault packs, has a compartment at the bottom for summer-type sleeping gear, and has a load-bearing waist belt, which makes a HUGE difference in user comfort. They are collectible, and so, not cheap unless one gets lucky. As far as Eagle goes, they make stuff for the Mil now, and the civvy market is a very secondary outlet for them. They make stuff nowadays to meet mil-spec, but there are many companies that exceed such specs. For example, the BAE/SDS gear on SALE at BAE/SDS Gear totally blows away Eagle or other minimum-standard mil-spec gear. I have recommended this stuff for a long time here, and have yet to hear a negative comment on the BAE/SDS gear. Some commenters have made mention on how well the gear is made compared to the stuff they have bought from other mfrs. YMMV. I buy BAE/SDS stuff from that Site on a fairly regular basis. Note that the UCP and ABU item are offered at a further discount, and these items are easily dyed using RIT Dye. See my thread here:On Dyeing With Rit Dye Disclaimer; no financial interest You're claiming that BAE/SDS is better quality than Eagle Industries? The BAESDS garbage looks like typical US Military issue trash with single stitching, tons of failure points, no attention-to-detail, no pursuit of excellence. I've been a gear collector and end-user, as well as fabicator for many decades, and there aren't a lot of companies that come close to Eagle when looking at quality. The site you linked shows garbage products like we were issued, not anything even close to Eagle Industries. Example of typical general issue crap pouches: https://www.entrygear.com/productimages/SDS%20SAW%20Gunner%20Set%20woodland.jpg Notice the difference in Eagle: https://www.entrygear.com/productimages/MLCS%20100RD%20khaki.jpg ETA: You posted a nice pic of the Eagle SAW pouch, and BAE/SDS SAW rifleman's pouch kit, which includes the standard GI-issue SAW pouch. Here's a BAE/Eclipse version of the 200-rd SAW pouch: BAE/Eclipse SAW Pouch. I believe that if you give it a fair-minded appraisal, you will find the BAE/Eclipse SAW pouch at least up to Eagle standards. |
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entrygear.com buys direct from Eagle/ATK, matter of fact has the USMC FILBE Assault Ruck in Multicam right now, but you are going to pay near full retail price on them:
Entrygear.com Eagle Multicam FILBE Assault Ruck |
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Thanks for the info. Its a shame if that is the reason. I was recently issue the FIBLE system and its excellent. However, not all is lost if you want a close copy of the FILBE. If you can get a complete 3-color desert USGI MOLLE pack with all the ancillary stuff, you can disassemble it and dye the components to a nice coyote brown with little trouble. My thread, mentioned above, shows how. I have both the later GI, one-compartment MOLLE pack and the FILBE, and there are almost no functional differences between them. To this day, I don't understand why Army gear for ground troops is different from USMC gear for ground troops. Seems to me as though some experts--and by that I mean people that have actually used the gear a LOT-- could get together, have a few beers, and design a good compromise that would serve both branches well. Any mission-specific differences could be accommodated by the intelligent use of the PALS attachment system commonly in use. |
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