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10/10/2006 2:53:08 PM EDT
Hi folks,

Can anyone point me to a good place for description of the US Parts Count issue (in layman's terms if possible).

I used to have a great link when I was modifying my JLD PTR-91 to stay legal, but I want to make some additional modifications, and I need to found out how many US parts I need to maintain.

Thanks.
10/10/2006 9:04:17 PM EDT
[#1]
It's real simple.   You can't have more than 10 foreign parts.   The following all count as parts;  hammer, trigger, sear, pistol grip, buttstock, foregrip(counts as one piece), muzzle brake, barrel, receiver, piston, operating rod, trunnion, bolt, bolt carrier, magazine(bodies, floorplates and followers, 3 parts total).
10/11/2006 1:29:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the info!
10/11/2006 6:43:03 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
It's real simple.   You can't have more than 10 foreign parts.   The following all count as parts;  hammer, trigger, sear, pistol grip, buttstock, foregrip(counts as one piece), muzzle brake, barrel, receiver, piston, operating rod, trunnion, bolt, bolt carrier, magazine(bodies, floorplates and followers, 3 parts total).


Forgot barrel extension
trigger housing
disconnector

Operating rod, AKA charging handle, go figure?

TPSOT
10/14/2006 7:45:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks again for the info.

Are there any websites that detail this information ?
10/14/2006 3:17:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Imported kits and rifles are the ones affected by a parts count.

Thus the FalFiles or an AK sight, even our own, would be a good place to look.
10/14/2006 5:51:11 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
It's real simple.   You can't have more than 10 parts that were obviously and verifiably made in a foreign country.




Not to advocate a violation of federal law, but I've never had it explained to me exactly how the hell they could tell.
10/14/2006 6:30:04 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's real simple.   You can't have more than 10 parts that were obviously and verifiably made in a foreign country.




Not to advocate a violation of federal law, but I've never had it explained to me exactly how the hell they could tell.


From what I've seen, most of the parts that are made here are marked as such. They will have a little "US" or "Made in USA" stamped on them. I think the ATF might just assume any parts not marked as made here are foriegn, unless you could prove otherwise.
10/14/2006 7:13:13 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's real simple.   You can't have more than 10 parts that were obviously and verifiably made in a foreign country.




Not to advocate a violation of federal law, but I've never had it explained to me exactly how the hell they could tell.


Those are the two 'issues' with the law: (a) they can't in many cases (so they'll just tell the court you're guilty), and (b) if they're checking your guns, they have you on something else allready...

But of course, we follow the letter of the law, because that's what responsible shooters do...

And of course, there are probably a few hundred rifles in circulation right now that are NOT in compliance because 'Joe Bubba' doesn't even know this law exists, and just swapped parts to make his gun look 'kewl'...
10/16/2006 8:52:46 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Thanks again for the info.

Are there any websites that detail this information ?


ATFE website

§ 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.


(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.


(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:

(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or

(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of §178.151; or

(3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.


(c) For purposes of this section, the term "imported parts" are:


(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings


(2) Barrels


(3) Barrel extensions


(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)


(5) Muzzle attachments


(6) Bolts


(7) Bolt carriers


(8) Operating rods


(9) Gas pistons


(10) Trigger housings


(11) Triggers


(12) Hammers


(13) Sears


(14) Disconnectors


(15) Buttstocks


(16) Pistol grips


(17) Forearms, handguards


(18) Magazine bodies


(19) Followers


(20) Floorplates

[T.D. ATF-346, 58 FR 40589, July 29, 1993]


Taken from ATFE website: Title 18 section 178.39 subsection (c)

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