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11/9/2010 10:14:54 AM EDT
I see that Nodak Spud is making an UZI receiver with the weld pack installed.  Has anyone done an UZI build?
11/9/2010 12:06:38 PM EDT
[#1]
No help but I am definitely interested.  I have a 9mm AR that takes unmodified uzi magazines so doing a build would be great.  I'd need to make it NY compliant though which I'll have to research a bit more.   The folding stock could be permanently welded from the looks of it which would be great as it would keep the look and be legal without having to run one of those ugly wood stocks.  

Apex has parts kits but they only seem to have 10" barrels.
11/9/2010 10:10:41 PM EDT
[#2]
The fully welded UZI would be like assembling an AR15 lower. Just install the parts. No special tools required.





The barrel nut ratchet pops right in.


Front sight assembly screws right on.


Top cover latch and spring clips right on.


Rear sight screws right in.


Rear stock bolts on with a single Allen head bolt.


The rest of the parts drop right in.





The hardest part would probably be the installation of the sling stud onto the receiver.

 
11/10/2010 6:44:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Clear this up for me please...........

It is my understanding that the "UZI parts kits" being sold are from demilled full auto guns and have few parts useful for building a semi auto UZI.

Is that correct? Or are there sources for semi auto parts kits?
11/10/2010 12:02:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Clear this up for me please...........

It is my understanding that the "UZI parts kits" being sold are from demilled full auto guns and have few parts useful for building a semi auto UZI.

Is that correct? Or are there sources for semi auto parts kits?


This was my first thought when I read the OP.  Anyone?
11/10/2010 4:56:14 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Clear this up for me please...........



It is my understanding that the "UZI parts kits" being sold are from demilled full auto guns and have few parts useful for building a semi auto UZI.



Is that correct? Or are there sources for semi auto parts kits?




This was my first thought when I read the OP.  Anyone?


It is my understanding that the auto bolt has to be milled to convert it to a closed bolt gun.  Nodak Spud is working on semi-bolts.



 
11/10/2010 9:03:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Parts you can use from an UZI SMG Parts Kit:


  • Barrel Ratchet                          


  • Barrel Ratchet                           Spring          

  • Barrel Nut


  • Model A Front Sight Assembly (Front Post/ Nut/ Washer)


  • Model A Rear Sight Assembly ( Rear Sight/ Screw/ Nut/ Spring)                        


  • Top Cover Latch                      


  • Top Cover Latch Spring

  • Folding Stock


  • Folding Stock Retainer and Bolt      


  • Front Sling Swivel  

  • Magazine

  • Ejector - Save for spare parts


UZI SMG Parts that can be Modified to work in the SA.

  • SMG Trigger Housing - Can be modified to work as SA only, drill for 9mm SA frame pin.

  • SMG Ratcheting Top Cover - Can be modified to remove the ratcheting system

  • Quick Release Wooden stock - Can be made to work as a fixed wood stock.


Semi-Auto Parts Needed:


  • 16"-18" barrel - depends on local laws and which stock is used.

  • Semi-Auto Bolt


  • Firing Pin/Striker assembly

  • Semi-Auto Recoil Spring

  • Semi-Auto Top Cover or modified SMG Top Cover

  • Semi-Auto Trigger Housing or modified SMG Trigger Housing

  • Semi-Auto Trigger Housing frame pin (9mm) - SMG Grip uses 8mm frame pin (depends on what the receiver is drilled for)







  • Semi-Auto Buffer



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
11/11/2010 5:13:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Parts you can use from an UZI SMG Parts Kit:
  • Barrel Ratchet                          
  • Barrel Ratchet                           Spring          
  • Barrel Nut
  • Model A Front Sight Assembly (Front Post/ Nut/ Washer)
  • Model A Rear Sight Assembly ( Rear Sight/ Screw/ Nut/ Spring)                        
  • Top Cover Latch                      
  • Top Cover Latch Spring
  • Folding Stock
  • Folding Stock Retainer and Bolt      
  • Front Sling Swivel  
  • Magazine
  • Ejector - Save for spare parts

UZI SMG Parts that can be Modified to work in the SA.
  • SMG Trigger Housing - Can be modified to work as SA only, drill for 9mm SA frame pin.
  • SMG Ratcheting Top Cover - Can be modified to remove the ratcheting system
  • Quick Release Wooden stock - Can be made to work as a fixed wood stock.

Semi-Auto Parts Needed:
  • 16"-18" barrel - depends on local laws and which stock is used.
  • Semi-Auto Bolt
  • Firing Pin/Striker assembly
  • Semi-Auto Recoil Spring
  • Semi-Auto Top Cover or modified SMG Top Cover
  • Semi-Auto Trigger Housing or modified SMG Trigger Housing
  • Semi-Auto Trigger Housing frame pin (9mm) - SMG Grip uses 8mm frame pin (depends on what the receiver is drilled for)
  • Semi-Auto Buffer

                                 


you DON'T need to remove the ratcheting system all you need to do is weld a piece of sheet metal in the slot to make it shorter for the semi bolt.

This means you still can ratchet the bolt back to show clear and keep it open.
You can use the folding stock if it's welded in the poen position, also there was a distributor that had US made semi bolts and hangards, I'll try to find the website later.
You can buy a 16 inch barrel right from bushmaster and it counts as a US made part!.
11/11/2010 5:45:11 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
You can use the folding stock if it's welded in the poen position...


What?
I don't believe there is any law that requires this. ATF measures OA length with the stock extended.
11/11/2010 6:12:54 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can use the folding stock if it's welded in the poen position...


What?
I don't believe there is any law that requires this. ATF measures OA length with the stock extended.


That's some NYS/NYC garbage they have to comply with.
11/12/2010 9:51:29 AM EDT
[#10]
the smg grip does have the 8mm receiver pin hole... i am not sure what the new receivers are drilled for but if they are 9mm, there is a company out there making little 1mm sleeves that fit in the receiver hole to allow you to use the 8mm pin and lower from the SMG parts kit.



http://www.landsden.com/parts.htm
the above people have them but im not sure if they are listed on the site... call them to order.
11/12/2010 10:17:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can use the folding stock if it's welded in the poen position...


What?
I don't believe there is any law that requires this. ATF measures OA length with the stock extended.

CLAIRIFICATION Complying with NYS LAW.....

I'm stating the folding stock must be permanently pinned or welded in EITHER the OPEN or CLOSED postiton....

Mine was welded in the OPEN position to comply to the NYS evil feature rule as not to be a "folding or telescoping stock"....
Just make sure you use enough US made parts.....
11/12/2010 8:25:20 PM EDT
[#12]
NDS fully welded UZI receivers only need one addition USA part. They will come with an ATF letter stating what parts were 922r compliant.


Originally Posted by mike@nds



FYI:
I received my UZI 922R parts count letter from ATF Tech Branch in Saturday's mail.
They state that the UZI has 13 countable parts.
This means that with our fully welded receiver (with trunnion), and a 16" US made barrel, you are 922R compliant.

 
11/12/2010 8:47:11 PM EDT
[#13]
NDS-1948 - Fully welded UZI receiver 922r. Parts Count







  1. Receiver - NDS-1948







  2. Barrel - USA available (many)







  3. Trunnion - NDS-1948








  4. Bolt   - USA available







  5. Trigger housing    - USA available (Group Industry)







  6. Trigger







  7. Sear  - USA available







  8. Disconnector








  9. Buttstock   - USA available







  10. Forearms   - USA available







  11. Magazine Body  - USA available







  12. Mag Floorplate - USA available








  13. Mag Follower - USA available








Note: Operating Rod part was not included in the ATF letter for the NDS-1948 Receiver. Although it was included with the Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count?!
Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count Letter: http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/norincoATF.htm
 
 
 
 
 
 
11/12/2010 8:51:11 PM EDT
[#14]





Quoted:



NDS-1948 - Fully welded UZI receiver 922r. Parts Count






  1. Receiver - NDS-1948


  2. Barrel - USA available (many)




  3. Trunnion - NDS-1948


  4. Bolt   - USA available


  5. Trigger housing    - USA available (Group Industry)




  6. Trigger


  7. Sear  - USA available


  8. Disconnector


  9. Buttstock   - USA available


  10. Forearms   - USA available


  11. Magazine Body  - USA available


  12. Mag Floorplate - USA available


  13. Mag Follower - USA available





Note: Operating Rod part was not included in the ATF letter for the NDS-1948 Receiver. Although it was included with the Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count?!





Norinco 320 922r. Parts Count Letter: http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/norincoATF.htm


           
So, the big question is, how much will a build set me back?  The NDS receiver is about $200.



And would it be cheaper to buy parts than getting a SMG kit and scraping a bunch of it?
 
11/12/2010 9:37:44 PM EDT
[#15]
I have a preban 9mm UZI, this will be my 2nd UZI carbine. I've had the 9mm UZI for 17 yrs and I have many spare parts & accessories for it. But, I've only had my UZI .45 caliber conversion kit this summer.
I've purchased most of the parts just in the last few months in anticipation for the new US UZI receivers.
Prices vary from vendor to vendor. There is such a wide difference in pricing. Some places charging double what other vendors are charging for the same part.
Got my stuff from:

  • UZI Talk marketplace,

  • Gun Broker

  • A few online vendors


I've got all but one last part to build my NDS-1948 as a .45ACP UZI carbine with a fixed wooden stock.
I'm at $745 for my .45 UZI build, including the last part I need ($20). Price does not including the various: shipping, taxes, USP PO fees, PayPal, magazines, and UZI accessories.
I got a lot of good deals on several of the parts. A .45 build will be more expensive than a 9mm build, but I've been lucky and have been basically getting the .45 parts for 9mm pricing. With .45 ammo costing so much now, a few UZI owners have been unloading their .45 caliber conversion parts for much less compared to what they were going for even just last year.
You can get a NEW Vector UZI with the factory 5 year warrant for just a little more than what I have into my UZI build.





But half the fun is building/assembling it yourself. Plus I'm building it exactly the way I want with the parts I want to use.
I already had ½ the parts on hand, so I decided to assemble one, rather than purchasing another completed UZI.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
11/12/2010 9:42:39 PM EDT
[#16]







Quoted:
And would it be cheaper to buy parts than getting a SMG kit and scraping a bunch of it?



 




Depends on where you get your UZI SMG Parts kit from. There are different levels of parts kit quality. Some parts kits are missing one or more components (most are missing the parts you can't use anyways). They are going from $150 - $400 from the different vendors. You can sell the SMG parts you don't use to recoup some of your money back.



I went and just purchased the individual parts I needed. I already had the major components for my build. I just needed the small parts for the receiver.





 

 
11/13/2010 11:00:03 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
You can use the folding stock if it's welded in the poen position...


What?
I don't believe there is any law that requires this. ATF measures OA length with the stock extended.


That's some NYS/NYC garbage they have to comply with.


If I lived there I would go with a wooden stock. I like the looks of them.
11/13/2010 12:34:56 PM EDT
[#18]





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If I lived there I would go with a wooden stock. I like the looks of them.



I like the looks of them too. They have a more comfortable cheek weld.










 
 
11/17/2010 11:22:15 AM EDT
[#19]
Redhorse, you have beautiful wood.....................

Here's a pic of the parts from the kit that can be used, some need to be modified as previously posted.

11/17/2010 5:32:26 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


Redhorse, you have beautiful wood.....................



It isn't my UZI, mine is does not have that expensive Custom AAA Grade Oak stock. It belongs to UZITALK Admin RoverDave.





 
11/17/2010 5:40:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I am really thinking that this will be a do-able build for me.  Mike, any word on when the bolts will be ready?


11/18/2010 11:07:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I am really thinking that this will be a do-able build for me.  Mike, any word on when the bolts will be ready?


I don't have a time frame yet, but will post info as I get it from McKay.

I'm hoping by the end of this year.
11/18/2010 11:08:42 AM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I am really thinking that this will be a do-able build for me.  Mike, any word on when the bolts will be ready?





I don't have a time frame yet, but will post info as I get it from McKay.



I'm hoping by the end of this year.


Thanks, I will be ordering a receiver soon

 
11/22/2010 1:20:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Has anyone received their Nodak Spud receiver yet....???? I curious as to how the fit and finish is, I'm pretty excited about this.....
11/23/2010 1:01:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Just ordered one......couldn't wait for comments.....
11/23/2010 4:41:23 PM EDT
[#26]



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Just ordered one......couldn't wait for comments.....


Can you please give a review when you get it

 
11/23/2010 6:22:53 PM EDT
[#27]
absolutely......
11/24/2010 7:53:29 AM EDT
[#28]
I have recieved my NDS Shell Reciever for a post sample build... Looks Amazing!!

ETA:  Our Company will be into this post sample build $395 total...

That makes me sick!
11/24/2010 4:30:32 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:


I have recieved my NDS Shell Reciever for a post sample build... Looks Amazing!!



ETA:  Our Company will be into this post sample build $395 total...



That makes me sick!


man, I figure if I do a semi SBR I will have to pay about $900.



 
11/27/2010 2:57:23 PM EDT
[#30]
I built a semi Uzi back during the AWB using parts gathered mostly on Ebay.  I sold most of the FA parts to recover some of the cost. Of course I ended up with more semi parts than I needed but am still into my UZI for about $700.

They are pretty easy to build, parts just pretty much just drop in.

For those looking to piece one together, they ain't cheap.

Parts can however be found at www.dandsales.com
11/27/2010 4:11:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
I built a semi Uzi back during the AWB using parts gathered mostly on Ebay.  I sold most of the FA parts to recover some of the cost. Of course I ended up with more semi parts than I needed but am still into my UZI for about $700.

They are pretty easy to build, parts just pretty much just drop in.

For those looking to piece one together, they ain't cheap.

Parts can however be found at www.dandsales.com


typo in your URL        http://www.danddsales
12/1/2010 5:08:16 AM EDT
[#32]
My NDS receiver showed up yesterday. Looks like top notch quality to me. Can't wait for the bolts to become available.
12/2/2010 2:26:45 AM EDT
[#33]




Quoted:

My NDS receiver showed up yesterday. Looks like top notch quality to me. Can't wait for the bolts to become available.


Picked mine up from my FFL yesterday, Looks and feels real solid and the welds are first class, just need a few more parts and it can go together.

12/3/2010 6:25:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Link here,

D and D Sales
12/3/2010 6:44:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Here's my almost completed build.....with fixed stock....all that's missing is the front sight and the sling mount, and a coat of Uzi black paint



















12/7/2010 7:43:35 AM EDT
[#36]
Very nice.

12/7/2010 7:48:41 AM EDT
[#37]




Quoted:

Very nice.







Mike,



Thanks for your help on the phone yesterday......
1/22/2011 12:06:10 AM EDT
[#38]
I'm having a hell of a time getting the rear sight leaf spring/top cover latch installation. Any tips?
1/22/2011 3:12:11 AM EDT
[#39]




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I'm having a hell of a time getting the rear sight leaf spring/top cover latch installation. Any tips?




perseverance....
1/22/2011 11:00:55 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm having a hell of a time getting the rear sight leaf spring/top cover latch installation. Any tips?


perseverance....


So....no tricks or anything? Just keep trying until it finally goes in? I already broke one of the leaf springs trying to get that damned thing in, so I ordered two more just in case.
1/22/2011 1:23:20 PM EDT
[#41]




Quoted:



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Quoted:

I'm having a hell of a time getting the rear sight leaf spring/top cover latch installation. Any tips?




perseverance....




So....no tricks or anything? Just keep trying until it finally goes in? I already broke one of the leaf springs trying to get that damned thing in, so I ordered two more just in case.


All I did was place the spring towards the rear of the spring clip....place the rear on first the just press the front until it snapes into place....really....... it went right on

1/26/2011 3:25:19 PM EDT
[#42]
How is the cheek weld with that wood stock ?


1/26/2011 4:34:58 PM EDT
[#43]




Quoted:

How is the cheek weld with that wood stock ?



http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j169/yakamora/new%20uzi/1Medium.jpg



not bad at all.....pretty comfortable compared to the steel folding stock....

5/3/2011 10:27:19 AM EDT
[#44]
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5/4/2011 2:14:17 PM EDT
[#45]




Quoted:





Quoted:

How is the cheek weld with that wood stock ?



http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j169/yakamora/new%20uzi/1Medium.jpg



not bad at all.....pretty comfortable compared to the steel folding stock....



I agree –– I prefer the "look" of the folder but the solid stocks (synth or wood) are much more comfortable IMO (esp. on FA).







< Not my SMG, FTR, but I used to own a semi IMI carbine w/ the folder back in the '80s. >
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