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Link Posted: 8/31/2022 6:45:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By huntercz:
Two belts current setup. I'm still making a lowered hinge for the knives. Also, I may have to split the esstac on the second belt so I can put another magazine pouch in there for the Vz.58 I also have.
Custom Gear belt, Esstac, Leatherman, 5.11, Templar's Gear IFAK, Schrade knife, Safariland and RH Holsters, Esstac TQ holder.
https://www.darkart.cz/foto/belts_2022.jpg
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Dude those are some killer looking belt setups there!!!! I may need to contact you for a parts list on that gear. Do you wear a carrier w plates with it? I'd assume that blade would end up under it if so?
Link Posted: 8/31/2022 7:01:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:

I like 2".
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Originally Posted By TradWoodsman:
Starting to shop for my first war belt setup.

I'm liking Esstac so far....any advice?

1.75 or 2 inch belt?

I like 2".

1.75 is better and more universal
Link Posted: 8/31/2022 4:57:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Dude those are some killer looking belt setups there!!!! I may need to contact you for a parts list on that gear. Do you wear a carrier w plates with it? I'd assume that blade would end up under it if so?
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Haha, thank you. You know, I'm just an ordinary civilian, and guns and equipment are just my hobby. But I try to take inspiration from a lot of other people and build the belt setup according to general rules. Then I test it at the range and put what's wrong away. And honestly, I just like tuning it too, it's fun :) Good you noticed the knives, yes they are too high, sometimes they hit the plate carrier. That's why I'm making a kydex hinge for them, to move them lower.

And thanks for the email, I look forward to replying to it, greetings to Virginia :)

Link Posted: 9/4/2022 10:53:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater] [#4]
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Imgur isn't wanting to embed for whatever reason. Neither is Flickr.

HSGI slotted belt and cobra riggers
G code scorpion tall pistol X2 and rifle
Maxpedition rolly polly
TT horizontal pouch for IFAK
Issued padded pouch of some kind (for NVGs)
Blackhawk T series L3D
Issued flashbang pouch w/ TQ inside

Forgot how fast belts fill up.

Edit: G code pouches are attached with their single layer belt clips.  They work perfectly with the 2 rows of MOLLE on the HSGI belt.  The MOLLE rows are stacked with no gap, so if you're going to use Ina. Similar style of belt, or one a 2 PC assaulter belt with 1.5" space from top to bottom of the webbing.  If you get the MOLLE clip on a belt like this they will slide up and down.

Link Posted: 9/4/2022 11:00:40 AM EST
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Imgur isn't wanting to embed for whatever reason. Neither is Flickr.

HSGI slotted belt and cobra riggers
G code scorpion tall pistol X2 and rifle
Maxpedition rolly polly
TT horizontal pouch for IFAKIssued padded pouch of some kind
Blackhawk T series L3D
Issued flashbang pouch w/ TQ inside

Forgot how fast belts fill up.

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Link Posted: 9/4/2022 11:11:42 AM EST
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Thanks.  I wonder if it's because I'm on my phone.

I'm testing out the concept of the padded pouch for my NVGs and the flashbang pouch for my TQ.  If they work, I'll dye or spray paint the.  Going to be taking a heat gun to the holster so it works with an aftermarket Glock frame and then it will get painted or wrapped.

Link Posted: 9/4/2022 11:24:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Thanks.  I wonder if it's because I'm on my phone.

I'm testing out the concept of the padded pouch for my NVGs and the flashbang pouch for my TQ.  If they work, I'll dye or spray paint the.  Going to be taking a heat gun to the holster so it works with an aftermarket Glock frame and then it will get painted or wrapped.

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Link Posted: 9/4/2022 12:32:54 PM EST
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@stoner1 woah - thanks dude.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 12:44:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
@stoner1 woah - thanks dude.
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Link Posted: 9/4/2022 1:12:56 PM EST
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Out of pure curiosity, I always wondered why people use external photo links to share pics when there is the decent capability of dropping them right in a post?

Perhaps it's cynicism to add pics using the ARF method than stating "email for pics" when putting up Equipment-Exchange threads? Can anyone who does such explain their reasoning?
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 1:14:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Out of pure curiosity, I always wondered why people use external photo links to share pics when there is the decent capability of dropping them right in a post?

Perhaps it's cynicism to add pics using the ARF method than stating "email for pics" when putting up Equipment-Exchange threads? Can anyone who does such explain their reasoning?
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I can't add pics directly.   Only an external link to them through my Google images thing.   You need a membership to be able to post directly I thought
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 1:55:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Out of pure curiosity, I always wondered why people use external photo links to share pics when there is the decent capability of dropping them right in a post?

Perhaps it's cynicism to add pics using the ARF method than stating "email for pics" when putting up Equipment-Exchange threads? Can anyone who does such explain their reasoning?
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Particularly those who do not have paying membership have to use an external site. And if the size is too big
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 2:55:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stoner01:

Particularly those who do not have paying membership have to use an external site. And if the size is too big
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Originally Posted By stoner01:
Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Out of pure curiosity, I always wondered why people use external photo links to share pics when there is the decent capability of dropping them right in a post?

Perhaps it's cynicism to add pics using the ARF method than stating "email for pics" when putting up Equipment-Exchange threads? Can anyone who does such explain their reasoning?

Particularly those who do not have paying membership have to use an external site. And if the size is too big

I do it b/c I no longer pay for a membership.  I drop photo into imgur then direct link it here.  It's an extra step but it;s not difficult and it's free.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 3:00:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By huntercz:


Haha, thank you. You know, I'm just an ordinary civilian, and guns and equipment are just my hobby. But I try to take inspiration from a lot of other people and build the belt setup according to general rules. Then I test it at the range and put what's wrong away. And honestly, I just like tuning it too, it's fun :) Good you noticed the knives, yes they are too high, sometimes they hit the plate carrier. That's why I'm making a kydex hinge for them, to move them lower.

And thanks for the email, I look forward to replying to it, greetings to Virginia :)

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I've been thinking of adding a knife to my setup but I'd go weak side.  I think the general thinking there is the knife comes out to create distance so you can get to your handgun (in a struggle or someone has your right arm constrained).

That said, I'm a civvie like you so i'm faaaar more likely to use it for more utility purpose at the range.  Anyway, something to consider.  I like the setups, going vertical with the med pouch to save belt space was a good idea.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 3:47:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Out of pure curiosity, I always wondered why people use external photo links to share pics when there is the decent capability of dropping them right in a post?

Perhaps it's cynicism to add pics using the ARF method than stating "email for pics" when putting up Equipment-Exchange threads? Can anyone who does such explain their reasoning?
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Last I knew I couldn't manage/reference all the photos I've uploaded to ARF in the past. The 3rd party sites allow me to have albums i can better manage.  Arf direct uploads are good for quick 1 off images or manufacturers/others pics that you may not need to reference again.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 5:17:44 PM EST
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Particularly those who do not have paying membership have to use an external site. And if the size is too big
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Ahhh. That explains it! Non Paying Members must not have the option!
Appreciate the feedback - all of you guys!

I need to lay my TRex Belt & AC1 rig out and take some pics.
Link Posted: 9/4/2022 5:23:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Ahhh. That explains it! Non Paying Members must not have the option!
Appreciate the feedback - all of you guys!

I need to lay my TRex Belt & AC1 rig out and take some pics.
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Link Posted: 9/4/2022 9:08:18 PM EST
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Eagle Operator Belt
Esstac Gap Pistol
Esstac Single Molle Rifle Mid
BFG TenSpeed (attached to KYWI)
Can't remember who made this specific elastic TQ addon
Spiritus Small GP
Raptor bottle pouch
Esee4
6390 ALS & Glock 19X w/x300
eleven10 tq pouch (Need to remove this)
Emdom Recon Waist Bag (IFAK)
ITW Carabiner with worn out pig deltas


I keep the small GP empty, but usually rotate flashbangs or my nods in there. The fanny pack sits on the small of my back and I rotate it to the front when I'm either seated, or most commonly driving/riding in a truck. For any amount of running it is quite uncomfortable to have the pack out front as it likes to....bounce. And even with a 1 liter nalgene full of water, that bottle stays in place when moving. Was hard finding a good place for a bottle pouch, but when it's there I usually remove it when sitting just as I rotate my fanny pack around.
Link Posted: 9/5/2022 12:10:42 AM EST
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Kore Battle Belt (it really doesn't suck!)
CAT TQ in TQ holder I forget where from, I bought like four of them somewhere
Esstac Kywi dual pistol mag
2x Esstac Kywi AR pouches
BFG dump pouch
True North MHA and strap.  Strap also connected to back of knife sheath.
Safariland 7xxx for the P320 X-compact with 507v2 ACSS, TLR-1, and Herrington comp
When the mood suits me and I tire of plastic, a Safariland 6xxx for the P226 Alloy Stainless Elite/Pro-Cut with R1P, TLR-1
Hogue EX-F01 5.5" just because it matched my P226 (and is a pretty good knife)
HSGI dual Taco with Gerber Diesel multitool and Hogue K320 automatic (also just because it matched my P320, and is also a pretty good knife)
G-hook mounts for a set of V-Tac suspenders for those times when I don't want to thread an inner belt, between the AR mag and dump pouch, and behind the MHA

All but the MHA and knife mounted with One-Wrap.

Also have a Blackhawk Omnivore TLR-1 version in FDE, with True North QLS adaptor, for those times when I take a handgun besides my two SIGs out to the range.  Strictly flat range use only though.

And did I mention the Kore belt doesn't suck? Because it doesn't.

Link Posted: 9/6/2022 2:09:48 AM EST
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Switched to Esstac's enhanced belt. I like it a lot. I think it's hard to beat unless you need molle for some reason.

Link Posted: 9/19/2022 10:21:14 PM EST
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Two different setups

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Link Posted: 9/20/2022 4:57:13 AM EST
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Why no list of what they include?
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 9:25:10 PM EST
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Why no list of what they include?
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Why no list of what they include?

Pure unadulterated laziness.

Mcb
Axl eclipse
Jsta with lunar concepts 1p1r insert
Vxv ifak with insert
True north mha with gcode rti
Soil eater v2
Haley hanger with vitkos gloves

Mc
Ferro bison
Double kiwi
Haley single rifle
Spiritus spud
Spiritus Nalgene
Ltc ifak
Spiritus jsta set up for signal/Pyro
True north mha
Soil eater v2
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 9:32:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:

Pure unadulterated laziness.

Mcb
Axl eclipse
Jsta with lunar concepts 1p1r insert
Vxv ifak with insert
True north mha with gcode rti
Soil eater v2
Haley hanger with vitkos gloves

Mc
Ferro bison
Double kiwi
Haley single rifle
Spiritus spud
Spiritus Nalgene
Ltc ifak
Spiritus jsta set up for signal/Pyro
True north mha
Soil eater v2
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Don't let him bully you
Hows the haley hanger?
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 9:44:13 PM EST
[#25]
I've been using the Haley since he released it. I really like how small it is attachment wise. The velcro is really thin and works well if you stack multiple things (like both the hook hanger and the tq hanger)
Link Posted: 9/20/2022 9:47:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:
I've been using the Haley since he released it. I really like how small it is attachment wise. The velcro is really thin and works well if you stack multiple things (like both the hook hanger and the tq hanger)
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Link Posted: 9/21/2022 11:58:13 AM EST
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Eagle Operator Belt...
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No IR Glow on you! Nice. (I've had to Krylon a lot of stuff...works though, LOL)
Link Posted: 9/22/2022 3:38:42 AM EST
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I am definitely happy with this rig's major changes so far. Still deciding on an AFAK though.

Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:16:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By huntercz:
Two belts current setup. I'm still making a lowered hinge for the knives. Also, I may have to split the esstac on the second belt so I can put another magazine pouch in there for the Vz.58 I also have.
Custom Gear belt, Esstac, Leatherman, 5.11, Templar's Gear IFAK, Schrade knife, Safariland and RH Holsters, Esstac TQ holder.

https://www.darkart.cz/foto/belts_2022.jpg
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What's the 2nd belt?  I want to setup an outer belt that I can put on easily over anything and I like the looks of that one.
Link Posted: 9/24/2022 8:49:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:
Kore Battle Belt (it really doesn't suck!)
CAT TQ in TQ holder I forget where from, I bought like four of them somewhere
Esstac Kywi dual pistol mag
2x Esstac Kywi AR pouches
BFG dump pouch
True North MHA and strap.  Strap also connected to back of knife sheath.
Safariland 7xxx for the P320 X-compact with 507v2 ACSS, TLR-1, and Herrington comp
When the mood suits me and I tire of plastic, a Safariland 6xxx for the P226 Alloy Stainless Elite/Pro-Cut with R1P, TLR-1
Hogue EX-F01 5.5" just because it matched my P226 (and is a pretty good knife)
HSGI dual Taco with Gerber Diesel multitool and Hogue K320 automatic (also just because it matched my P320, and is also a pretty good knife)
G-hook mounts for a set of V-Tac suspenders for those times when I don't want to thread an inner belt, between the AR mag and dump pouch, and behind the MHA

All but the MHA and knife mounted with One-Wrap.

Also have a Blackhawk Omnivore TLR-1 version in FDE, with True North QLS adaptor, for those times when I take a handgun besides my two SIGs out to the range.  Strictly flat range use only though.

And did I mention the Kore belt doesn't suck? Because it doesn't.

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I had been looking at a Kore belt.  Your post pushed me over the edge and I bought one.  You’re right, it doesn’t suck.  It’s a huge improvement over the VTAC belt I did have.  Still have to figure out a light holder, but I’m 90% of the way there I think.  Gonna shake out the bugs in a class in December.

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Link Posted: 9/24/2022 9:17:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RHR_12:


I had been looking at a Kore belt.  Your post pushed me over the edge and I bought one.  You’re right, it doesn’t suck.  It’s a huge improvement over the VTAC belt I did have.  Still have to figure out a light holder, but I’m 90% of the way there I think.  Gonna shake out the bugs in a class in December.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/420759/B99FC146-A22D-4AFA-BC59-F5A7609633F9_jpe-2538249.JPG

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I've been using an ATS single magazine pouch for the handheld light carry. No accidental light discharges even when bumping into things. Light is a simple Surefire G2X.

Link Posted: 9/24/2022 9:20:45 PM EST
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@RHR_12

Glad you like it.  And you did what everybody that gets a Kore battle belt does (myself included)...you put the buckle on the wrong side.  Works best if the buckle is on the right side because of the way the inner belt works, and it's easier to operate the release latch, plus it puts your holster in a constant fixed position when you tighten and loosen the belt.
Link Posted: 9/24/2022 10:46:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:
@RHR_12

Glad you like it.  And you did what everybody that gets a Kore battle belt does (myself included)...you put the buckle on the wrong side.  Works best if the buckle is on the right side because of the way the inner belt works, and it's easier to operate the release latch, plus it puts your holster in a constant fixed position when you tighten and loosen the belt.
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Interesting.  The reason I set it up that was was due to the kore EDC belt I have.  Makes sense why the catch is different from the EDC.  I’ll have to consider whether I want to flip it or not.

As for a light, I have a streamlight stinger I really am quite attached to.  It’s left over from my LE days.  I like it for night use because of the dual buttons and the length is long enough to tuck under an armpit if you need to do something.  The problem is it’s long enough it doesn’t fit in a pouch, and all the loops designed for it are designed for an actual duty belt.
Link Posted: 9/25/2022 2:43:09 AM EST
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Interesting.  The reason I set it up that was was due to the kore EDC belt I have.  Makes sense why the catch is different from the EDC.  I’ll have to consider whether I want to flip it or not.

As for a light, I have a streamlight stinger I really am quite attached to.  It’s left over from my LE days.  I like it for night use because of the dual buttons and the length is long enough to tuck under an armpit if you need to do something.  The problem is it’s long enough it doesn’t fit in a pouch, and all the loops designed for it are designed for an actual duty belt.
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I mount just about everything on my belt with One Wrap these days, so for me it's just a minute or two to flip things 180.  But if you actually wove the stuff on, I feel your pain.



Link Posted: 9/28/2022 1:41:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/28/2022 1:55:28 PM EST
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Yes, just like any fabric. I learned this when I worked at a fabric supplier.

What I need to find is double sided loop..
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 6:09:47 AM EST
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Stupid question of the day. I just got a Blue Alpha gear belt snd it’s my first with a cobra buckle. Do I take one of them off to thread the holster on?

Going to set it up this weekend. Have one wrap for Esstac pouches ready to go and a taco for a light/multi tool.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 6:56:04 AM EST
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Yessir, you will need to remove one buckle and load the belt in serial fashion.
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Damn, sounds like I should pay attention and plan that shit.

Which side goes where? Seems like most have the male connector on the right side closed (right handed shooter)
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 7:39:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16:

Damn, sounds like I should pay attention and plan that shit.

Which side goes where? Seems like most have the male connector on the right side closed (right handed shooter)
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Doesn't really matter, but I would practice which hand is more dominant at disconnecting the cobra buckle. For me, I'm kind of ambidextrous. I shoot right-handed, but I find the female end easier to manipulate on my left side, so I take of the male connector and thread my belt (when worn) counter clockwise or left to right.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:17:01 AM EST
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Is there a difference in one wrap? Are some tougher / stiffer than others?

And do they sell it in colors like FDE, coyote, or patterns?

I honestly wouldn't know a one wrap if i found one.

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I've looked pretty hard for FDE/Coyote onewrap and came up short, I ended up just using black. If you find some please post a link.
Link Posted: 9/29/2022 11:39:09 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/29/2022 12:44:43 PM EST
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Thank you!

I guess my google fu is not as good as I thought.
Link Posted: 10/4/2022 8:38:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: Croak] [#45]
Have one of these and the inner belt on order.  Pretty much designed with One-Wrap in mind, and I do like the slick exterior.

https://defensemechanisms.com/mech-battle-belt/

Defense Mechanisms Mech Belt - The New King
Link Posted: 10/4/2022 6:46:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:
Have one of these and the inner belt on order.  Pretty much designed with One-Wrap in mind, and I do like the slick exterior.

https://defensemechanisms.com/mech-battle-belt/

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Is there any reason not to use one wrap? I started with a traditional pals belt and malice clips. Then I discovered one wrap and changed to a slick belt and it just seems like a better system all around.
Link Posted: 10/5/2022 9:46:35 AM EST
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I've looked pretty hard for FDE/Coyote onewrap and came up short, I ended up just using black. If you find some please post a link.
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Amazon has Tan OneWrap rolls - every time I need it, it's in stock.
Link Posted: 10/6/2022 7:01:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Croak:
Have one of these and the inner belt on order.  Pretty much designed with One-Wrap in mind, and I do like the slick exterior.

https://defensemechanisms.com/mech-battle-belt/

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This thing has me really intrigued, I may have to pick one up to play with.
Link Posted: 10/6/2022 8:43:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RHR_12:


I had been looking at a Kore belt.  Your post pushed me over the edge and I bought one.  You’re right, it doesn’t suck.  It’s a huge improvement over the VTAC belt I did have.  Still have to figure out a light holder, but I’m 90% of the way there I think.  Gonna shake out the bugs in a class in December.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/420759/B99FC146-A22D-4AFA-BC59-F5A7609633F9_jpe-2538249.JPG

@Croak
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On your pouches, are you using the MOLLE / malice clips? If so, how is the fit?
Link Posted: 10/6/2022 11:53:14 AM EST
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Ok...got an Esstac enhanced belt in my shopping cart...any other belts that I should really be considering for a first belt?

Esstac comes with inner and outer belt for the same cost that many just sell the outer, so its seems like a great bang for the buck.

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