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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:19:12 AM EDT
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Why can't a home compressor not work in filling a PCP reservoir to pressure? There's hand pumps that do it for around $100. How are they doing it, but a home shop compressor can't? Give us the low down in why a person needs a special $300 - $2000 air gun compressor, OR, what's needed in components to convert (if possible) a 110v home compressor, let's say 20-60 gallon tank to work in filling a PCP. I've looked online, maybe the wording I use is incorrect, in finding difference(s) between a PCP compressor and shop compressor. |
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Originally Posted By intheburbs: You serious, Clark? For starters, a home compressor is likely a 150-200 PSI unit. PCP is, what, 3000 PSI? Anything pressurized to 3000 PSI is potentially a bomb. And you're wanting to redneck mod a home air compressor to do that?  Yep. I strongly advise to not try that mod. Buy a compressor designed to fill SCUBA tanks. |
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Originally Posted By Rossi: Yep. I strongly advise to not try that mod. Buy a compressor designed to fill SCUBA tanks. Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By intheburbs: You serious, Clark? For starters, a home compressor is likely a 150-200 PSI unit. PCP is, what, 3000 PSI? Anything pressurized to 3000 PSI is potentially a bomb. And you're wanting to redneck mod a home air compressor to do that? Yep. I strongly advise to not try that mod. Buy a compressor designed to fill SCUBA tanks. Do not do this. There is a reason for hydrostatic testing of 3,000 PSI SCUBA tanks, filling them in barrels of water to bleed off heat. and have a fill room that will mitigate damage from any potential tank explosion. |
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This is what I mean. You guys are thinking, and yeah I did say a 20-60 gallon tank and wasn't thinking about that part, and how the shop tank's pressure solenoid shuts it off at a safe level, BUT without that air tank and shut off pressure switch, that pump will run and run, until shut off manually or pump seizes from heat or no oil. Air in, air out through a high pressure hose/filter/adapter. How are the Chinese able to get their hands on building these systems, but everybody seems to think that a purchased air gun compressor would be better and couldn't be built using components purchased separately and put together by a capable, mechanical person. Are parts available through a 3rd party to build your own air gun compressor that would work? I've not dived deep into the pump side of the PCP gun world, so I'm looking at what is available out there. Going to Google now to expand my knowledge. EDITED: Well I looked for any kit builds and parts (not counting accessories to rebuild, hoses or adapters). Nothing. That answers my questions. Will need to get a pcp compressor or hand pump that's already on the market, if I or anybody at this time wants to shoot a pcp air gun. |
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High pressure compressors have always been available but it’s a small niche so many don’t want to pay for them. Lots of people just keep a couple SCBA tanks around to fill their PCP guns. Chinese are willing to build them cheaper as usual and the standards aren’t quite as high if you aren’t looking to breathe the air. High pressure compressors aren’t just a standard compressor with slight modification they are built from the ground up for it. It’s not common to own your own but PCP air guns definitely have created some demand. |
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Which is why I'm saving for a Bauer or Coltri 240v compressor. About $3500. Then I will be set for life on Air. I want to fill SCBA bottles that fill my guns. Bottles are potable and you can get dozens of fills from one bottle. All those cheap Chinese compressors have to be mothered and tinkered with. And they all die eventually. |
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Originally Posted By xanadu: Do not do this. There is a reason for hydrostatic testing of 3,000 PSI SCUBA tanks, filling them in barrels of water to bleed off heat. and have a fill room that will mitigate damage from any potential tank explosion. Originally Posted By xanadu: Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By intheburbs: You serious, Clark? For starters, a home compressor is likely a 150-200 PSI unit. PCP is, what, 3000 PSI? Anything pressurized to 3000 PSI is potentially a bomb. And you're wanting to redneck mod a home air compressor to do that? Yep. I strongly advise to not try that mod. Buy a compressor designed to fill SCUBA tanks. Do not do this. There is a reason for hydrostatic testing of 3,000 PSI SCUBA tanks, filling them in barrels of water to bleed off heat. and have a fill room that will mitigate damage from any potential tank explosion. It goes without saying that all safety precautions must be taken when handling those highly-pressurized containers. OP's question was about adapting a normal compressor. That's a huge no-no. OP should visit a divers' shop that refills SCUBA tanks and check how they do it. |
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Originally Posted By Harv24: Which is why I'm saving for a Bauer or Coltri 240v compressor. About $3500. Then I will be set for life on Air. I want to fill SCBA bottles that fill my guns. Bottles are potable and you can get dozens of fills from one bottle. All those cheap Chinese compressors have to be mothered and tinkered with. And they all die eventually. I had plans to do a potato gun and run it off a SCBA tank on my back but never did. At the time I could have filled my own tanks now it’s not as attractive. |
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People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.
People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
| That's the reason I've never gotten into PCPs. I have no scuba shops in my area, tanks are expensive, compressors are even more expensive and have no desire to manually pump one up |
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@Triumphman I just ordered this one. Attached File It's coming directly from Hatsan. I'm tired of (& too old to keep) pumping my PCPs up manually. Ships in 1 - 2 months. Midway has it for @240 and it is in stock. Most other places have it for $350 - $450. 12v battery powered but you can buy the Hatsan inverter for $35-$50. 1 year warranty but my Visa will extend that to 3 years total. EDIT: WTF? It just change to $240 on Amazon. |
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Thanks WDEagle. Took a look at this and I don't think it'll hold up well if a person had airguns that held more than 1L fill tanks. I think Hatsan limits this to 1L because it being only a 12V system, they don't want to overload the battery with the amps being drawn, so they keep the run time less, at 1L to not tax your battery if out in the wilderness with no way home. Might be a great air system if one does the Sig (MRX? or MCR?) setup that comes as Co2, but wants a conversion to PCP by getting the 88gram tank/adapter and butt pad kit from Venturi Air. Looks to be a very clean and well thought out system. I saw the setup on an email I got from Pyramyd Air that had a video of the kit conversion. |
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