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Arnt you the member who has an actual registered hand grenade? I want you to win, I really want a Tommy gun, (and yes , I wanna yell gangster movie lines and wear a 3 piece, fedora, while I know Down soda cans. ) I’d bet you but you have an actual hand grenade so you can accomplish the seemingly impossible. |
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Originally Posted By fsjdw2: Arnt you the member who has an actual registered hand grenade? I want you to win, I really want a Tommy gun, (and yes , I wanna yell gangster movie lines and wear a 3 piece, fedora, while I know Down soda cans. ) I’d bet you but you have an actual hand grenade so you can accomplish the seemingly impossible. @fsjdw2 Yes, pretty certain he is, or was, he might have made a deal for something in return, I don't recall the exact details. If I recall he has/had to store it in a certified container of some sort designed for explosives, maybe the fuse separate? |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: I FEEL machine guns should be legal? Does that do anything to change the law? No. Laws don't give a shit about your FEELINGS and I don't either. The law defines something specific. I does NOT define FEELINGS. Hence why we look at real life and not your FEELINGS. We don't care about FEELINGS. We care about the law and what the law says. The law defines a MG as a having a specific mechanical property. It does care if you FEEL it is a machine gun because it either is or it isn't as defined by a specific mechanical property. There is no questions, there is no way it can change without an act of Congress. Look at it from a real life perspective, not a liberal made up perspective if FEELINGS. You’re obviously letting your feelings on the matter cloud your ability to understand what he was trying to say, thats painfully obvious in the first line of your reply. He’s pretty spot on in his assessment. Laws kind of are based on feelings. They’re based on people’s opinions of right and wrong, and opinions are basically just feelings. Lots of things in society are based on the feelings of groups of individuals. Your opinion is based on your feelings so it must be made up and you must be a liberal, right? I honestly get where you’re coming from with the word “feelings” and the liberal mindset. But you’re the exact opposite side of the spectrum and it is just as ridiculous |
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Originally Posted By Blk99sleekbeak: You’re obviously letting your feelings on the matter cloud your ability to understand what he was trying to say, thats painfully obvious in the first line of your reply. He’s pretty spot on in his assessment. Laws kind of are based on feelings. They’re based on people’s opinions of right and wrong, and opinions are basically just feelings. Lots of things in society are based on the feelings of groups of individuals. Your opinion is based on your feelings so it must be made up and you must be a liberal, right? I honestly get where you’re coming from with the word “feelings” and the liberal mindset. But you’re the exact opposite side of the spectrum and it is just as ridiculous In New Jersey, you cannot own a gun with a bayonet lug on it. Because the Democrat dumbasses in New Jersey elected some Democrat dumbasses to represent them. The dumbass Democrat politicians were vaguely aware that a there is such a thing as a bayonet mount on military rifles. So they banned them. (No more drive-by bayonettings! Hooray, we're saved!) That ridiculous law has stood like the Rock of Gibraltar for 35 years. It is utterly pointless and stupid, but the voters are happy with it. So it's still in effect. Since your fellow citizens have the power to make almost any gun law they feel like, no matter how pointless and stupid it is, I think the only practical way to change any gun laws is by first changing public opinion. That's just my take on it. I'm not a Great Swami of All Known Wisdom, I could be wrong. |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Just semi-autos, or does it even ban the K98 or Arisaka that grandpa brought back from the war? Enjoy the crime-free utopia of New Jersey: A semi-automatic firearm should be considered to be "substantially identical," that is, identical in all material respects, to a named assault weapon if it meets the below listed criteria: A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a bayonet mount; a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and a grenade launcher; B. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and, C. a semi-automatic shotgun that has at least 2 of the following: a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and an ability to accept a detachable magazine. Basically you end up with a pre-ban AR15. Thus incapable of being misused to commit crime because it has less than 2 of the above flashy-shroud-hider-stock-thingies. A K98 should be good to go. You can own an M1A (semi auto M14) and an AR15, but not an M1 Carbine. Because of Magical Assault Shroud Pistol Grip Powerz. |
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Originally Posted By IHTFP08: does the KS case make any difference? |
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"And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods."
"And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods."
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Originally Posted By NostalgiaforInfinity: Just wanted to poke this bear a little now that Ben is back  I'm only sorta back. I'll be tied up at Walter Reed for likely the next several months. Sorry. |
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A federal judge in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi has struck down 922(o) as applied to a defendant who merely had an MG in his home. Link |
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Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: A federal judge in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi has struck down 922(o) as applied to a defendant who merely had an MG in his home. Link from what I've read, that only counts for that one guy in that one situation, but still seems like a win to me. |
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Lawyer's take on it below. Short of it is that he thinks it would be best for 2A to not appeal it and risk an adverse, binding opinion from SCOTUS.   MAJOR 2A NEWS: MACHINE GUN BANS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL... |
“The difference between treason and patriotism is only a matter of dates.”
"And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods."
"And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his Gods."
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I should have mentioned that I am a lawyer with many years experience practicing in the federal courts. My practice is overwhelmingly civil because criminals don’t have money to pay me. What we have at the moment is a district court opinion. The charges against dude have been dismissed because the court found that 922(o) violates the second amendment. He wisely brought a narrow, as applied challenge based on his particular facts. Judges like to make narrow rulings, particularly when taking the extraordinary step of striking down a federal law. The ball is now in the government’s court. If they don’t appeal, that is the end of it. A district court opinion can be cited as precedent in future cases, but it is merely persuasive. Only decisions from the courts of appeals and the Supreme Court have binding authority in the federal courts of appeals system. If the U.S. attorney’s office appeals the decision, it will go to a panel of three judges on the Fifth Circuit. They are by far the most pro gun circuit at the moment. I’d give the decision an even money chance of being sustained. To me, best case is that the government appeals this to CA5 and loses, then the Trump administration declines to appeal it further. It then becomes binding law in the Fifth Circuit. I would not love to see this issue taken up by the Supreme Court right now. |
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From his FRT thread Originally Posted By Ben: That is on hold for a variety of reasons; I had a relatively large amount of cash...and then...I was medically forced out of my civilian job...then was activated as a reservist and deployed overseas...then had a stroke and am now being medically seperated from the reserves...then had a son end up with brain damage and in the ICU for a month, who is now getting three doctors appointments a week and is imminently getting surgery again, and...the list goes on. So priorities were forced to realign in the short term, but that project isn't dead. It is sleeping. |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: From his FRT thread Originally Posted By Wangstang: From his FRT thread Originally Posted By Ben: That is on hold for a variety of reasons; I had a relatively large amount of cash...and then...I was medically forced out of my civilian job...then was activated as a reservist and deployed overseas...then had a stroke and am now being medically seperated from the reserves...then had a son end up with brain damage and in the ICU for a month, who is now getting three doctors appointments a week and is imminently getting surgery again, and...the list goes on. So priorities were forced to realign in the short term, but that project isn't dead. It is sleeping. Holly Crap. Prayers for you @Ben |
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Originally Posted By tReznr: @Ben any updates? Originally Posted By tReznr: Originally Posted By tReznr: @Ben any updates? @Ben any updates? I'm in a dozen federal lawsuits right now. I'm also sitting in recovery from my second surgery under general anesthesia since the start of the year. My son born with issues in 2024 that was on an air and feeding tube for over a year just got his feeding tube removed though, so at least something is going well. This is going to need to wait. Life got in the way. I might hire someone else to pursue it though. Will see. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: I'm in a dozen federal lawsuits right now. I'm also sitting in recovery from my second surgery under general anesthesia since the start of the year. My son born with issues in 2024 that was on an air and feeding tube for over a year just got his feeding tube removed though, so at least something is going well. This is going to need to wait. Life got in the way. I might hire someone else to pursue it though. Will see. Glad to hear you are still kicking and that your son is doing better! |
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