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Posted: 7/27/2026 9:39:36 PM EDT
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Most of you have seen the information about the CMP offering the M14’s. I was curious about price implications with the current Springfield Armory models. Will the early SA preban models with GI components retain their appeal and values? I’ve seen a few locally with NM parts from Springfield like National Match barrel , sights, and can’t remember the other components (gas system maybe). One rifle looked about new with the green box. |
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In my opinion, it will absolutely impact the Springfield Armory market. My opinion is free & I've been wrong as many times as I've been right. You have to split new & older SA guns into separate markets. SA owns the entry level M14 market right now. You have to pay 25-50%ish more to get into the next brand of M14. The SA used guns, that is a different market because of SA long manufacturing span from full USGI parts minus the receiver to all commercial parts (MIM and all). The used guns compete with other builds. For example, a Chinese gun that has been rebuild with USGI parts can compete with a SA gun and maybe be preferred as it has a forged receiver. I had a Polytech 18" Crazyhorse clone that was fully rebuilt with USGI & Smith Ent parts that was really nice. As for how much it will affect the SA guns, depends on some details we don't know yet. If the CMP guns has a factory receiver, many M14 guys, including myself, will sell their stuff to get at least one. Yes, many will keep a shooter. But I know I would sell my current Norinco (with USGI parts) to fund a CMP gun, unless I have a bonus or commission check burning a hole in my pocket. The big variable is weather it will have the factory receiver or have the parts stripped with a new receiver. That has yet to be announced. The 'Once a machine gun, always a machine gun' ATF regulation has to be addressed and settled. Which is may be if directed by an act of Congress which this was. If its USGI parts on a new receiver, well then the SA impact will be much less. Not to mention we have to see pricing as change how desirable the CMP guns are. $2K and I think many will jump on them. $4K and a much smaller group will get into them. Of course, the more money they are may make people sell their SA or other M14 to offset the cost. At $2K, I may keep a shooter and just buy another. |
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Thanks for your input. I think you hit on about all the variables . It makes a lot of sense. You’re right about having to get specs by the CMP to get a better idea as to where things will go. I got in the Garand game as things started getting pricey. The secondary market proved to be pretty good for me. I wouldn’t mind picking up a CMP deal if prices are reasonable. |
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Originally Posted By Uys: Since the CMP rifles will have a more limited customer base, due to eligibility requirements, the secondary prices will probably be really stupid. I agree, it's a lot like NFA stuff back when there was a $200 tax. Between the paperwork and tax, many just avoided it all together. Now that the tax is gone, it's enough to make people run out to get it. With the CMP, you have a few requirements. You have to belong to a club and have shooting experience you can show (match results, CCW, training receipts, etc.). Nothing bad, but enough to drive people away. |
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I don't think so. The CMP are going to be more $$$$ collectable item. They won't do anything better than SAInc M1a. I would be more interested in how they are converting to permanent semi. Welded selecter shaft like GI or selector lug machined off, op rod dismount notch filled and Garand/ M1a type dismount notch added. |
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Originally Posted By Uys: Since the CMP rifles will have a more limited customer base, due to eligibility requirements, the secondary prices will probably be really stupid. Sheesh, you sound like the Dems who say betting voter ID would be too hard for black folks. Those eligibility requirements are an extremely low bar. |
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Originally Posted By Uys: I belong to two gun clubs and listen to members whine, complain and never follow through to get a rifle or become eligible - I agree the bar is low. As low as my belief in people. You remind me of talking to my brother. As a cop, he deals with people every day that I can afford to just not think about. I prefer my life. |
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Originally Posted By ihon: I agree, it's a lot like NFA stuff back when there was a $200 tax. Between the paperwork and tax, many just avoided it all together. Now that the tax is gone, it's enough to make people run out to get it. With the CMP, you have a few requirements. You have to belong to a club and have shooting experience you can show (match results, CCW, training receipts, etc.). Nothing bad, but enough to drive people away. my daughter, who was in her twenties, bought a CMP 1911 and qualified by buying a $25 membership from the Garand collectors association and having her concealed carry permit. I doubt many people are going to not buy one because of those hurdles, LOL |
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100,000+ sub $2000 replenished forged real M14’s coming to market? Springfield would be crazy to not be worried. This isn’t like the 1911’s where they’re a dime a dozen on the market and you can an objectively better gun for cheaper than a CMP gun. Springfield has a monopoly almost, and with an inferior gun. |
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Originally Posted By tacklenut: Thanks for your input. I think you hit on about all the variables . It makes a lot of sense. You’re right about having to get specs by the CMP to get a better idea as to where things will go. I got in the Garand game as things started getting pricey. The secondary market proved to be pretty good for me. I wouldn’t mind picking up a CMP deal if prices are reasonable. I'll bet they'll go for upwards of $4500. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: 100,000+ sub $2000 replenished forged real M14’s coming to market? Springfield would be crazy to not be worried. This isn’t like the 1911’s where they’re a dime a dozen on the market and you can an objectively better gun for cheaper than a CMP gun. Springfield has a monopoly almost, and with an inferior gun. Sub 2k? I bet they run a good bit higher. Are Springfield really that bad? Mine is all USGI parts, mostly H&R. Reciever of course civilian Springfield. Are they really that bad? |
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M1A MSRP at $1800, versus CMP at $2000 is a no-brainer for most. However, there have been a lot of people too ignorant to buy Garands from the CMP. A lot of gunshow junk has sold for more than a CMP direct field grade M1. So the ordering process will always keep some away. I'm also not sure if the M14 carries as much demand as the Garand. The Garand is more of a movie-star than the M14. I still think the CMP M14 is a solid investment piece. Once they're gone, they're gone. |
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Depending on the price of used G.I. M14's, buying one instead of Springfield Armory's seems like the best bargain. An issue M14 will gain value over time, has world class forged and heat-treated metal part and has historical significance. I remember in the early 1990's when AR-15's started beating M1-A's in NRA/DCM tournaments, even winning at the 600-yard line, and watching some great shooters stop competing because they hated the mouse gun so much. By the end of that decade the M1-A was relegated to second tier status. Now they have to run a special tournament at Camp Perry to include the M1-A as still being relevant. Camp Perry was dominated by match grade M14 derivatives, both the military and civilians considered it the top dog through the 1970's and 80's. I own two M1-A Super Match rifles that I had rebuilt around 2002 and have only fired them to achieve a basic 200 yard zero. They are, in all regards new. Because I can't see iron sights and the target (I have to choose glasses to see one, or the other, I can't see both) I will probably never be able to use them as intended. Buying a surplus M14 still interests me, even with my limited eyesight. |
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