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2/3/2014 3:10:48 PM EDT
Just a heads up, Amazon has WIllmaker 2014 on sale tonight at 11 PM.  I'll be snagging one.
2/4/2014 5:04:27 AM EDT
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and this is pertinent to the Silencer forum how?
2/4/2014 5:12:55 AM EDT
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1) Use Willmaker to form a trust
2) Have trust acquire suppressors
3) ??????????
4) Profit!
2/4/2014 5:13:26 AM EDT
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1) Use Willmaker to form a trust
2) Have trust acquire suppressors
3) ??????????
4) Profit!



Legal Section?????

And Attorneys do a better job at forming legal documents than DIY software. YMMV
2/4/2014 6:48:05 AM EDT
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1) Use Willmaker to form a trust

2) Have trust acquire suppressors

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4) Profit!






Legal Section?????



And Attorneys do a better job at forming legal documents than DIY software. YMMV




 
Attorneys do a better job of separating you from your money, too.




Thanks for posting, OP.






2/4/2014 11:24:41 AM EDT
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1) Use Willmaker to form a trust
2) Have trust acquire suppressors
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4) Profit!



Legal Section?????

And Attorneys do a better job at forming legal documents than DIY software. YMMV

  Attorneys do a better job of separating you from your money, too.

Thanks for posting, OP.





2/4/2014 11:47:53 AM EDT
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Regardless of who does a better job forming trusts, unless Willmaker has changed for 2014, current versions of the software do not incorporate trust documents.  I'm pretty sure that the 09 version was the last version to do so.  (Maybe 2008, cant remember.)

2/4/2014 12:50:23 PM EDT
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Once you buy Willmaker it they will give you Trust Maker for free.

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2/4/2014 3:03:57 PM EDT
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4) Profit!





And Attorneys do a better job at forming legal documents than DIY software. YMMV


  Attorneys do a better job of separating you from your money, too.




District Attorneys do an even better job of separating you from your freedom if that homemade trust is ever questioned.




2/4/2014 4:29:53 PM EDT
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1) Use Willmaker to form a trust

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4) Profit!

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  Attorneys do a better job of separating you from your money, too.









District Attorneys do an even better job of separating you from your freedom if that homemade trust is ever questioned.




 
This thread has careened wildly off topic.




I don't lose any sleep over my "homemade trust".  If a trust written by a lawyer helps YOU sleep at night, more power to you.




You can't put a price on peace of mind.






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And I'm sure you can name several cases where this happened.

Or maybe a few.

Or two.  

One?

Thought not.
2/5/2014 8:05:29 AM EDT
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And I'm sure you can name several cases where this happened.

Or maybe a few.

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One?

Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.


2/5/2014 10:08:58 AM EDT
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Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




You're basing your comments on what could happen 10 to 20 years from now? There might be a total ban on NFA items by then,too.
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And I'm sure you can name several cases where this happened.

Or maybe a few.

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One?

Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




Jesus Christ.

My trust is revocable, which means it can be changed.  If they find a problem with it I'll pay a lawyer to have it changed.  Stop with the scare tactics.
2/5/2014 10:54:17 AM EDT
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Or maybe a few.

Or two.  

One?

Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




You're basing your comments on what could happen 10 to 20 years from now? There might be a total ban on NFA items by then,too.


Hell, in 20 years I'm going to prison for the healthcare and the menu.

Figure I'll be tired of cat food.
2/5/2014 11:33:25 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ.

My trust is revocable, which means it can be changed.  If they find a problem with it I'll pay a lawyer to have it changed.  Stop with the scare tactics.
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And I'm sure you can name several cases where this happened.

Or maybe a few.

Or two.  

One?

Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




Jesus Christ.

My trust is revocable, which means it can be changed.  If they find a problem with it I'll pay a lawyer to have it changed.  Stop with the scare tactics.


If the trust was improperly formed then it may not exist to begin with, and there is thus nothing to change.  

Also depending on your trust's terms and state's laws, a "revocable" trust may or may not be amendable.  You don't typically want to revoke an NFA trust.
2/5/2014 11:54:27 AM EDT
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Or maybe a few.

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Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




He's just made because he probably transferred everything as an individual and was too late for the trust boat....
2/5/2014 1:57:11 PM EDT
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If the trust was improperly formed then it may not exist to begin with, and there is thus nothing to change.  

Also depending on your trust's terms and state's laws, a "revocable" trust may or may not be amendable.  You don't typically want to revoke an NFA trust.
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District Attorneys do an even better job of separating you from your freedom if that homemade trust is ever questioned.



And I'm sure you can name several cases where this happened.

Or maybe a few.

Or two.  

One?

Thought not.



You're asking that question way too soon.  Give it about 10-20 years.




Jesus Christ.

My trust is revocable, which means it can be changed.  If they find a problem with it I'll pay a lawyer to have it changed.  Stop with the scare tactics.


If the trust was improperly formed then it may not exist to begin with, and there is thus nothing to change.  

Also depending on your trust's terms and state's laws, a "revocable" trust may or may not be amendable.  You don't typically want to revoke an NFA trust.


Whatever.  Until I see a single prosecution based on Quicken making a huge error in their software the scare tactics won't work on me.  Keep waiving your arms though and telling people they have to spend hundreds of dollars or they will be thrown in jail.  There is not one single data point to support that hypothesis.
2/5/2014 2:41:54 PM EDT
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In what state (give me just one) can a revocable trust not be amended by the grantor?  I don't know of any, and I don't believe there are any.  Certainly logic would dictate that if you can revoke the trust entirely (pretty much the ultimate amendment), you could make lesser changes to it.  But make my day--prove me wrong.  Show me one state in the country, with references to its law, that prohibits grantors from amending their own revocable trusts, irrespective of what the language of the trust states.

As to whether you'd want to revoke an NFA trust, usually you wouldn't want to, though there would be no harm in doing so if it had already disposed of its NFA items.  However, virtually every NFA trust will be a revocable trust--any exceptions would be too rare to be worth mentioning.
2/5/2014 2:57:28 PM EDT
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In what state (give me just one) can a revocable trust not be amended by the grantor?  I don't know of any, and I don't believe there are any.  Certainly logic would dictate that if you can revoke the trust entirely (pretty much the ultimate amendment), you could make lesser changes to it.  But make my day--prove me wrong.  Show me one state in the country, with references to its law, that prohibits grantors from amending their own revocable trusts, irrespective of what the language of the trust states.



As to whether you'd want to revoke an NFA trust, usually you wouldn't want to, though there would be no harm in doing so if it had already disposed of its NFA items.  However, virtually every NFA trust will be a revocable trust--any exceptions would be too rare to be worth mentioning.
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In what state (give me just one) can a revocable trust not be amended by the grantor?  I don't know of any, and I don't believe there are any.  Certainly logic would dictate that if you can revoke the trust entirely (pretty much the ultimate amendment), you could make lesser changes to it.  But make my day--prove me wrong.  Show me one state in the country, with references to its law, that prohibits grantors from amending their own revocable trusts, irrespective of what the language of the trust states.



As to whether you'd want to revoke an NFA trust, usually you wouldn't want to, though there would be no harm in doing so if it had already disposed of its NFA items.  However, virtually every NFA trust will be a revocable trust--any exceptions would be too rare to be worth mentioning.


Regardless of whether it's from Quicken or a lawyer, I can't think of a reason why you would not want your NFA trust to be revocable.



 
2/8/2014 2:58:04 AM EDT
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6 stamps on my 2008 Quicken Willmaker Trust... Which cost me 12.99 5 years ago on Amazon.

Good find OP! :)
2/8/2014 3:09:50 PM EDT
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Just going to throw this out there, but Quicken IS made by lawyers... and the trusts it makes are state specific...
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