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12/31/2015 3:12:46 PM EDT
I was given a Winchester Model 190 when my wife's grandfather passed away.  The good appears to be in great condition however the magazine tube feels very loose.  It will eventually twist on its own and fall out.  Is this due to a weak spring in the magazine tube?  I am looking at purchasing the following but wanted to see what the consensus was before purchasing.



http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/magazine-parts/magazine-tubes/winchester-150-190-250-270-290-22lr-inside-magazine-tube-prod73497.aspx?avs|Make~~Model_1=Winchester__190



Thanks.




12/31/2015 3:34:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Is your magazine tube (the inner one you talk of replacing) missing the little pin that locks it into the ring/support on the bottom/front of the barrel?

If so, might try ordering that pin first.
12/31/2015 4:32:48 PM EDT
[#2]
I just pulled the gun out and looked at it.  The pin does look a little worn  Maybe that is all that is wrong with it?






 
 
12/31/2015 9:41:23 PM EDT
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I just pulled the gun out and looked at it.  The pin does look a little worn  Maybe that is all that is wrong with it?


http://www.framedmoments.net/photos/i-Jn9TD23/0/XL/i-Jn9TD23-XL.jpg


   
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Looks like it.  I wonder if sharpening the sides of the pin with a file would help?





Inspect the outer tube closely as well, where the pin fits.  It may have been stretched open through the years. The solution could be as simple as pinching it together a bit.
 
1/1/2016 1:21:56 AM EDT
[#4]
That's the pin that holds the cap on the tube also locks in the j-hook on magazine. You should be able to drift it out. It may have a taper to to nock it from the flush side. You can use all most anything to replace it
1/1/2016 1:48:32 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks to all, i will try to remove the pin.  Worse case is i have to buy a whole new inner magagazine tube which i was going to do anyway.  Best case i just need a pin.



Thanks
1/1/2016 1:52:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Walk in the park,


Take a punch and drive the pin out.  This will allow you to pull the end cap off and remove the spring and spring follower a well.

Now clean the inside of the tube, the spring and the follower.  Now take a caliper and measure the OD of the pin and replace it with a slightly longer pin.  If you don't have pin stock, then even the back end of a drill bit the same size of the pin cut to length with a dremil will work to make a new pin (make the pin protrude slightly longer so it will stay in the  tube J retainer slot  that has slightly grown and worn. Now with some light lube like CLP on the inside of the tube/spring/follower, put the mag tube back together with the new pin.

P.S, when you have the mag tube back in the rifle, take a look at the J hook seciton of the rifle retainer tube for the mag.  Hence it may be slightly peened outward from lots of use, and with a piece of round rod stock in the mag tube retainer as an back up iron, and a leather non maring mallet, you can peen the J section on the retainer tube back inwards back to factory new specs.


If all of this is beyond you, then just take the rifle to a smith and he should be able to correct such for min costs instead.
1/1/2016 8:03:01 AM EDT
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Walk in the park,
http://www.framedmoments.net/photos/i-Jn9TD23/0/XL/i-Jn9TD23-XL.jpg

Take a punch and drive the pin out.  This will allow you to pull the end cap off and remove the spring and spring follower a well.

Now clean the inside of the tube, the spring and the follower.  Now take a caliper and measure the OD of the pin and replace it with a slightly longer pin.  If you don't have pin stock, then even the back end of a drill bit the same size of the pin cut to length with a dremil will work to make a new pin (make the pin protrude slightly longer so it will stay in the  tube J retainer slot  that has slightly grown and worn. Now with some light lube like CLP on the inside of the tube/spring/follower, put the mag tube back together with the new pin.

P.S, when you have the mag tube back in the rifle, take a look at the J hook seciton of the rifle retainer tube for the mag.  Hence it may be slightly peened outward from lots of use, and with a piece of round rod stock in the mag tube retainer as an back up iron, and a leather non maring mallet, you can peen the J section on the retainer tube back inwards back to factory new specs.


If all of this is beyond you, then just take the rifle to a smith and he should be able to correct such for min costs instead.
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This.....It's not unusual for that part to "mushroom" a tad over the years if the rifle has seen a good bit of use. I've repair several old tube-fed .22s that way. The method described above is the way to do it.....Not pliers!!!!. I've seen folks try to tweek the hook that way and snap them off.
1/1/2016 10:46:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks Dano523.
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