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Posted: 12/17/2008 11:38:45 PM EDT
| Would it be possible to have an XCR dedicated discussion forum? |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary.
No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. I agree. Allow I like the bullpup forum because that is atleast several rifles to talk about. But SIG 556 and XCR?? No thanks. Isn't there an XCR website? Whats next a Mini 14 forum? How about a Remington 870 forum?
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The XCR has a forum. www.xcrforum.com
Its a great place for XCR owners and people who are looking for XCR info without being trolled to death. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. While I agree that there's an XCRforum already up and running....there's no reason why there isn't one here for Robinson Armament. If you post something anywhere but here in Gen. Firearms Discussion (even a comparison thread in AR section comparing to an AR) it get's moved here....yet SCAR and ACR threads stay. Why do we have all the other forums in the Armory? So people don't migrate to other forums to talk about something they are just getting into. If we can have a plethora of forums on every brand of pistol in the handgun forum, and a FAL, FN Herstal, M1A/M14, Sig "rifles", etc. forum.....why not an XCR or RA forum? It just makes sense. Sean |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. While I agree that there's an XCRforum already up and running....there's no reason why there isn't one here for Robinson Armament. If you post something anywhere but here in Gen. Firearms Discussion (even a comparison thread in AR section comparing to an AR) it get's moved here....yet SCAR and ACR threads stay. Why do we have all the other forums in the Armory? So people don't migrate to other forums to talk about something they are just getting into. If we can have a plethora of forums on every brand of pistol in the handgun forum, and a FAL, FN Herstal, M1A/M14, Sig "rifles", etc. forum.....why not an XCR or RA forum? It just makes sense. Sean go to www.xcrforum.com!!!!! If u check it out its perfect for xcr fans |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. While I agree that there's an XCRforum already up and running....there's no reason why there isn't one here for Robinson Armament. If you post something anywhere but here in Gen. Firearms Discussion (even a comparison thread in AR section comparing to an AR) it get's moved here....yet SCAR and ACR threads stay. Why do we have all the other forums in the Armory? So people don't migrate to other forums to talk about something they are just getting into. If we can have a plethora of forums on every brand of pistol in the handgun forum, and a FAL, FN Herstal, M1A/M14, Sig "rifles", etc. forum.....why not an XCR or RA forum? It just makes sense. Sean go to www.xcrforum.com!!!!! If u check it out its perfect for xcr fans Yes, I realize that....hence my comment in the post you quoted. However, I'm sure the management/owners of Arf.com want this site to be a "one stop shop" for all firearms questions as the more hits they get, the more income they make. That's what I mean. If there's room for all these other specialty (non-AR) forums that are brand specific....then there's certainly room for the XCR/Robinson Armament weapon systems. Sean |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary.
No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. yer spot on about everythang except your opwnership of the xcr, thats wrong, so send that sumbitch to me asap so you can be "more correctificated". |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. Then you need to lobby for a better search function or a stickied thread for XCR/SIG questions. WIthout a longer search period for non-paying members than 30 days....the questions will invariably come up repeatedly in new threads. Sean |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. Then you need to lobby for a better search function or a stickied thread for XCR/SIG questions. WIthout a longer search period for non-paying members than 30 days....the questions will invariably come up repeatedly in new threads. Sean or you could pony up $2 a month to have access to full search including archives. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. Then you need to lobby for a better search function or a stickied thread for XCR/SIG questions. WIthout a longer search period for non-paying members than 30 days....the questions will invariably come up repeatedly in new threads. Sean or you could pony up $2 a month to have access to full search including archives. Certainly an option, but I don't believe in "sharing" information for money. My philosophy on the internet is that it's a free exchange of thought and information (not that you care about my philosophy)....I don't ask people to pay me for my expertise (not in the gun realm) and I expect the same courtesy. I know, antiquated thought process....doesn't change my feeling on the matter. Sean |
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or you could pony up $2 a month to have access to full search including archives. Certainly an option, but I don't believe in "sharing" information for money. My philosophy on the internet is that it's a free exchange of thought and information (not that you care about my philosophy)....I don't ask people to pay me for my expertise (not in the gun realm) and I expect the same courtesy. I know, antiquated thought process....doesn't change my feeling on the matter. Sean LOL, man, are you on the wrong site!! |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. Then you need to lobby for a better search function or a stickied thread for XCR/SIG questions. WIthout a longer search period for non-paying members than 30 days....the questions will invariably come up repeatedly in new threads. Sean or you could pony up $2 a month to have access to full search including archives. Certainly an option, but I don't believe in "sharing" information for money. My philosophy on the internet is that it's a free exchange of thought and information (not that you care about my philosophy)....I don't ask people to pay me for my expertise (not in the gun realm) and I expect the same courtesy. I know, antiquated thought process....doesn't change my feeling on the matter. Sean The site isn't free to run and it costs nothing to use. The issue is if you want full access to all the features it costs money. I never cease to be amazed by those who think their mere presence alone is enough to sustain a site. At the end of the day there are those who are free riders and those who enable them, and I'm OK with that. What I'm not OK with are the free riders who demand that they should get MORE free shit. Ain't no free lunch, somebody pays... either the Team members, the advertisers or the Avilas. I think the free members receive more than enough utility. I agree a tacked thread on the SCR and Sig would be helpful, then we could lose the Sig forum and not need an XCR forum. |
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Difference between an XCR Forum or SIG Forum and the Bullpup Forum is that the Bullpup is an entire distinct class of firearm that is produced by multiple companies the world over. Whereas, the XCR (aka Robinson Arms) and SIG forums would represent individual companies. Now there are already distinct forums for some companies like the FN-Forum (probably shouldn't be), but two wrongs don't make a right.
If I had any say around here I would suggest that individual company forums (SIG, FNH, Robinson Arms, and so forth) should only be granted their own forums if they become "Industry Partners" with AR15.com otherwise there is less motivation to become an "Industry Partner" AND it sort of does a bit of diservice (although not all together because of other benefits) to those that are "Industry Partners." That's how I see it anyways. Problem with "tacked threads" is that they need to be well moderated or suddenly you end up with a hundred pages where 85-90 of those pages are worthless junk. Then you end up people asking the same questions over and over and over again. With more an more people coming online both on the consumer and dealer ends of the industry the larger web forums are going to become more and more important. Social Media if you will. P.S. sort of off topic, but the search function could be improved here and I haven't taken a look at the BETA Version yet of the Equipment Exchange, but I really hope that improves things over there for the user. |
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Oh for God's sake this is fucking bullshit. I didn't want a bullpup forum because it would open the door for a plethora of others... and sure enough we got the Sig 556 forum and now there are calls for an XCR forum. We don't need any more fucking forums. What people need to do is stick to one or two threads on a rifle and ask their question in there. Ninety percent of these threads are not breaking new ground, and chances are there has been a thread asking the very same question before. Read that thread and revive it if necessary. No more fucking forums! And yeah, I own an XCR and a Sig 556... love them both, but don't see why we need dedicated forums for them. It's a Sig rifles forum not just for the 556. yeah, I'm well aware of that, how many model rifles does Sig produce and what is the only one being discussed there. How many model rifles does Robinson make? We might get an occasional question on the M96 and VEPR questions get handled in the AK section. There just isn't a reason for a Sig forum or an XCR forum. Bottom line, 90% of the questions being asked are being asked again and again and again and could be served by a couple of threads where people actually took the time to read what is already out there rather than spamming the existing forums with the same shit. Every forum needs a moderator or two, are you aware this board has over 200 moderators already? We don't need to add more sub-forums, we need to appropriately use the ones we have. Then you need to lobby for a better search function or a stickied thread for XCR/SIG questions. WIthout a longer search period for non-paying members than 30 days....the questions will invariably come up repeatedly in new threads. Sean or you could pony up $2 a month to have access to full search including archives. Certainly an option, but I don't believe in "sharing" information for money. My philosophy on the internet is that it's a free exchange of thought and information (not that you care about my philosophy)....I don't ask people to pay me for my expertise (not in the gun realm) and I expect the same courtesy. I know, antiquated thought process....doesn't change my feeling on the matter. Sean The site isn't free to run and it costs nothing to use. The issue is if you want full access to all the features it costs money. I never cease to be amazed by those who think their mere presence alone is enough to sustain a site. At the end of the day there are those who are free riders and those who enable them, and I'm OK with that. What I'm not OK with are the free riders who demand that they should get MORE free shit. Ain't no free lunch, somebody pays... either the Team members, the advertisers or the Avilas. I think the free members receive more than enough utility. I agree a tacked thread on the SCR and Sig would be helpful, then we could lose the Sig forum and not need an XCR forum. And that's all I'm saying....or did you miss that I gave two alternative options (stickied threads or better search access to all) to a dedicated forum? Look, it's hard to tell in this medium how "impassioned" you are about this....but from your wording and phrasing, I'd say you're a little more wound up about this than is really necessary.....though I admittedly could be misreading your tone. For clarification, I didn't "demand" anything. I simply posed a plausible solution and a different alternative resolution to the problem. As for who should pay? It's up to the individual members if they want the added features and wish to pay for it.....I do not...and my commentary about whether they add a XCR/RA forum hasn't had anything to do with me buying a membership b/c I won't regardless. As for your assertion that membership alone doesn't sustain a site.....well, yes and no. The more hits your site generates, the more of a case can be made to advertisers to justify the rate you charge. In closing, my attempt wasn't to ruffle your feathers....though it seems that's been the outcome of our exchange. My apologies. I'll try and leave it at that. Respectfully, Sean King |
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Difference between an XCR Forum or SIG Forum and the Bullpup Forum is that the Bullpup is an entire distinct class of firearm that is produced by multiple companies the world over. Whereas, the XCR (aka Robinson Arms) and SIG forums would represent individual companies. Now there are already distinct forums for some companies like the FN-Forum (probably shouldn't be), but two wrongs don't make a right. If I had any say around here I would suggest that individual company forums (SIG, FNH, Robinson Arms, and so forth) should only be granted their own forums if they become "Industry Partners" with AR15.com otherwise there is less motivation to become an "Industry Partner" AND it sort of does a bit of diservice (although not all together because of other benefits) to those that are "Industry Partners." That's how I see it anyways. Problem with "tacked threads" is that they need to be well moderated or suddenly you end up with a hundred pages where 85-90 of those pages are worthless junk. Then you end up people asking the same questions over and over and over again. With more an more people coming online both on the consumer and dealer ends of the industry the larger web forums are going to become more and more important. Social Media if you will. P.S. sort of off topic, but the search function could be improved here and I haven't taken a look at the BETA Version yet of the Equipment Exchange, but I really hope that improves things over there for the user. Very good points that I hadn't considered. Thanks. Sean |
| Sean, we're good...it is just an age old debate around here. Not the dedicated forums, but the general complaining about the lack of full search features and the belief many have that there mere presence is enough payment toward the expense and we should be grateful to have these people here who pass along their infinite wisdom. If I lumped you in with them I apologize as well. |
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Sean, we're good...it is just an age old debate around here. Not the dedicated forums, but the general complaining about the lack of full search features and the belief many have that there mere presence is enough payment toward the expense and we should be grateful to have these people here who pass along their infinite wisdom. If I lumped you in with them I apologize as well. No need to apologize. I certainly am not one who knows much about firearms in particular. I'm learning as I go and this site has been helpful in that regard. Also, I hope it didn't come across as complaining about the site's limited search function. I understand fully that by becoming a member I will gain benefits related to the search function.....I was only pointing out that if you don't make the search function more accessible to the newbs who haven't paid for a membership....they will likely be the ones asking questions over and over again. Hope that explains it. Again, my apologies if I came across wrong. Have a good one. Sean |
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