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2/7/2010 6:10:54 AM EDT
I know you can't reload these in .308 but can in .30-06.

Where can I find some to buy?
2/7/2010 6:45:52 AM EDT
[#1]
You can reload them in anything you want ... it is not illegal to own, load, or shoot AP/API ammo.  It is only illegal to manufacture the bullets themselves anymore.  Basically when the surplus of these tips are gone ... that's it.  No more imports or productions for civilian use.  Sorta like machine guns ... they are legal to own and use, but you cannot manufacturer them anymore.

Sarg


2/7/2010 6:50:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Fun show or flea market.
2/7/2010 7:28:22 AM EDT
[#3]
There are some on gunbroker.  As to legal or not in 308, I don't know.  I bought some and haven't touched them because I'm not sure.  I'm going to call the ATF feild office one day and ask I guess, the wording of the law itself makes it pretty unclear.
2/7/2010 7:39:31 AM EDT
[#4]
The wording of the law refers to the actual projectile "the bullet".  Never does it mention loaded ammunition.  Considering ATF frequently has booths at gun shows and the like ... if it was not legal they would be shutting the fun brokers down.  The way it is worded is about as clear as mud ... I wish someone would go through and repeal a lot of the confusing laws and make it plain and simple.  Too many people get in trouble over things that never had any malicious intentions.  With all the laws and red tape it has made gun ownership a risky venture in general.  It seems that now adays it all comes down to how it is "interpreted" and by "who".  You can ask the same question to two different agencies and get two different answers on what the law means.  You basically have to hire a lawyer just to review over the law to tell you if your a "law abiding" citizen before you do anything.

Some people say that if it can be chambered in a pistol then you cannot hand load it .... I have seen 50 BMG pistols ... so does that mean those millions of API projectiles are illegal to load?  How about all those companies doing it?  The wording says "common" pistol caliber .... but it does not define common anywhere.  All back to interpretation.  

Sarg

2/7/2010 7:43:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Fun show or flea market.


This and hold on to your wallet, the last one's I saw were $1.25 a piece for just the bullet

I have 50 or so I pulled from some LC '44 ball that I picked up years ago and was starting to corrode at the primers.

My understanding and it is just that, is as pointed out earlier the importation and manufacturing for the civilian market has stopped. Possession of the AP itself is not an issue, much like pre-ban mags were not an issue when the AWB was in place.
2/7/2010 7:58:04 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The wording of the law refers to the actual projectile "the bullet".  Never does it mention loaded ammunition.  Considering ATF frequently has booths at gun shows and the like ... if it was not legal they would be shutting the fun brokers down.  The way it is worded is about as clear as mud ... I wish someone would go through and repeal a lot of the confusing laws and make it plain and simple.  Too many people get in trouble over things that never had any malicious intentions.  With all the laws and red tape it has made gun ownership a risky venture in general.  It seems that now adays it all comes down to how it is "interpreted" and by "who".  You can ask the same question to two different agencies and get two different answers on what the law means.  You basically have to hire a lawyer just to review over the law to tell you if your a "law abiding" citizen before you do anything.

Some people say that if it can be chambered in a pistol then you cannot hand load it .... I have seen 50 BMG pistols ... so does that mean those millions of API projectiles are illegal to load?  How about all those companies doing it?  The wording says "common" pistol caliber .... but it does not define common anywhere.  All back to interpretation.  

Sarg



Have agree with the "clear as mud" statement. It was explained to me that the laws are written that way intentionally in order to provide leeway in enforcement.

Example: and it is only a example pulled out of the air.... Joe Public has one of the .50 BMG pistols but is not violating any laws, is not a wanted fugitive or tied to terrorism. No foul.

On the other hand Joe Felon has the .50 AP ammo, the 50 pistol, 10#'s of C-4, plans of the federal building in Home town USA, a couple of AR's with happy switches illegally installed. You just added another charge to the sheet.

I am by no means trying to say I agree with the way they are written only providing the, questionable IHMO, reasoning behind them.

When in doubt WRITE the BATFE with a specific question with as much detail as you can give asking for an opinion on the law. They will respond in writing with their current interpretation of the law.

There are several examples of these responses in the Suppressor and Full Auto forums on this website.
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