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Posted: 7/29/2014 5:03:07 AM EDT
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I'm looking for load data for .44 Mag 240gr Hornady XTP. I have 2 pounds of Titegroup and 1 pound of CFE Pistol.
I cannot find online anything that is specific to this match up. I find JHP but I am new to reloading and want to be sure of my data. Can anyone give me some help. v/r Greg U.S. Navy (retired) |
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First off what firearm are you reloading for ?
And no offense intended at all, seriously,... but how long have you been reloading ? Is this going to loaded on a single stage press ? IMHO , Titegroup and beginning reloader can be a possible problem. There are a lot of details to focus on and a REALLY fast powder is not for the faint of heart. Hodgdons website shows data for the 240gr Nosler, using their starting data work up slowly watching for pressure and or even mild sticky extraction signs. You don't always have to use the exact bullet powder combo, AS long as you start with minimum powder charge weights. Out of those two choices I strongly suggest using the CFE Pistol powder, It will be far more forgiving. If you use Titegroup, it has a very narrow charge weight range , be very careful that your powder is weighed correctly. As you can see the low charge weight is already making 33,500 cup.... so any over charge could be really bad, since the pressure would raise VERY fast. That fast pressure increase is enough to keep me away from it.... and I have been reloading for 25+ years ( .44 Mag and all sorts of other domestic carts. ) In other words one little mistake and you could have a major problem. Personally I would NEVER use Titegroup in a case as big as the .44 Mag.... I have seen some odd results from such a fast burning powder in cases with a lot of left over space. Secondary detonation comes to mind. |
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I load that XTP bullet in my 44 but I use Alliant 300-MP
I sent Alliant an email asking for some load info using the XPT bullet: I am loading 44 Rem Magnum with the following: 240 Grain Hornady XTP Winchester Brass Winchester Primers (LP) and Alliant 300 MP Powder. I cannot find any loading data for the XTP and 300 MP powder. Thanks, Alliant responded with: I suggest starting with 24.5 grs of 300MP and the max should be approx. 26 grs. A firm crimp on the bullet is recommended. |
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I'm reloading for a Ruger Super Blackhaw Hunter 7/12" barrel.
I've been reloading for about 6 months. I've had no problem with using titegroup in 9mm (Glock) Since I'm new I've been weighing my charges almost every bullet. I'm using a single state Hornady with Lee dies. Being very cautious. |
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Titegroup in 9mm is a more suitable use of the powders characteristics , Fast Burning with a fast pressure curve in a small volume case.
The .44 Mag case has a lot more empty space when using Titegroup. Anyone could easily overcharge a .44 mag case with even a few extra grains and have a kaboom. I realize that the same could be said for quite a few powders and cartridges...( and that is why I avoid using those)... I prefer a "slower" burning powder, that doesn't spike in pressure so rapidly.... and fills the case better. A lot of people use Titegroup, so if you do use it , just pay extra attention to case charging. Using a single stage press allows you more time to focus on the specific task at hand. Your Ruger is about as strong as they come. Thank you for not taking offense to my frank questions. The internet is an excellent place to be misunderstood and miscommunicate your actual thoughts. LOL On a side note... why those two powders ? And are these for plinking, practice , hunting ? If it is because of the current powder shortage then I completely understand. |
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Try to hold out for some H110 or 2400 for those XTPs. Maybe even H/IMR 4227.
You can really max out velocity in that Ruger SBH for a real hunting machine out to 100+ yards. Don't go stupid hot, but you can get a lot more speed from the first 2 listed than you can with TG or other non-magnum pistol powders. Hornady's manual has good loads for it. The Nosler bullet is virtually identical and Nosler's website offers good loads as well. I have been loading 240gr XTPs for my 5" Ruger Redhawk and just a bit less than max loads gave me best accuracy. I will see if I can find my chrono results. ETA: I found some of my loads using Hornady and Nosler 240 grn bullets using H110 & 2400 I was getting 1300+ with published max loads. About 1200 with 5-10% decreases. If you want specifics, I can post that too, but there are 6-8 loads I chrono'd |
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Tg is too fast for a magnum
get some UNIQUE for mid-range loads get some Win-296 or H-110 for magnum loads W-296/H-110 requires a firm crimp and should not be loaded light. It's what magnum shooting is all about 
CFE data here... http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/ |
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Agree with rest.. 110/296 or better yet... 2400. All hard to get right now. My backorders are still pending.. for months.
IMR 4227 has been relatively easy to get lately. I have run it on 240 cast and 240 plated with good results. I have yet to try jacketed 44's with 4227 but don't see why it won't work. Those powders fit case well. For what it's worth, my friend loves the 240 plated bullets with Blue Dot... although dirty. |
| Hodgdon lists a 240 gr. load on their website, using Titegroup. |
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Quoted:
First off what firearm are you reloading for ? And no offense intended at all, seriously,... but how long have you been reloading ? Is this going to loaded on a single stage press ? IMHO , Titegroup and beginning reloader can be a possible problem. There are a lot of details to focus on and a REALLY fast powder is not for the faint of heart. Hodgdons website shows data for the 240gr Nosler, using their starting data work up slowly watching for pressure and or even mild sticky extraction signs. You don't always have to use the exact bullet powder combo, AS long as you start with minimum powder charge weights. Out of those two choices I strongly suggest using the CFE Pistol powder, It will be far more forgiving. If you use Titegroup, it has a very narrow charge weight range , be very careful that your powder is weighed correctly. As you can see the low charge weight is already making 33,500 cup.... so any over charge could be really bad, since the pressure would raise VERY fast. That fast pressure increase is enough to keep me away from it.... and I have been reloading for 25+ years ( .44 Mag and all sorts of other domestic carts. ) In other words one little mistake and you could have a major problem. Personally I would NEVER use Titegroup in a case as big as the .44 Mag.... I have seen some odd results from such a fast burning powder in cases with a lot of left over space. Secondary detonation comes to mind. I have only been handloading .44 Mag for forty years,,and I have to agree with this! Also, look into VV N110, very clean and complete burn. 
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