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Posted: 10/26/2011 1:58:24 PM EDT
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I have the chance to get these and a surefire in trade for a m1 garand. Should I?
What do you think these suckers are worth? 
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I've got over a dozen garands, its not like I'll be missing one. To give you a idea, these are all future projects. http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3240/200812120056.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8593/200812120053.jpg http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9562/068mo.jpg Some of the good stuffs. http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6782/6075r.jpg http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7264/94784457.jpg http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4654/48011600.jpg http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2717/24607613.jpg http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3403/65917424.jpg http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7836/074mu.jpg http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8669/078mv.jpg http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7113/072hq.jpg http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3157/080ay.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii309/ainfantry7/101_0421.jpg I know its a gamble but I really dont see how I can loose on this deal. why are you asking? Trolling? |
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It's just a hard choice....
theres potential for money to be made, but then again I am trading a fuctional garand for a hand full of afghanistan made pipe bombs. What I am asking is would the possibility of profit be worth the trade for a average korean war bring back? Or is this a case where theres no market and I wont be able to give them away for $50 each. |
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http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii309/ainfantry7/101_0421.jpg I know its a gamble but I really dont see how I can loose on this deal. [/quote] Until someone in GD gets ahold of that pic 
Serously, whats with that M1. Was the plan to put a folding stock or something on it? |
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Don't do it. +1 +1 The vast majority of the stuff that was brought back from Afghanistan was made by locals to sell to stupid soldiers who don't know what they're buying. I kept my eyes open during an entire year+ tour there, and saw TWO that I'm fairly confident were originals and not scams. Two. Whether you need the Garand or not is moot. The stuff you are being offered is likely pot metal garage-built junk that was made to be sold to suckers. If it was pot metal garage-built junk that was actually built for use and had some authenticity to it, it might be different... |
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They sell that fake garbage over here in A-Stan for like 50 bucks. Don't do it. + 1 Million! It is a bunch of crap they sell outside all major military bases over there. Its just homemade junk they sell to dumb officers that want to have something to hang on the wall at the end of their tour. |
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Actually I took your advice, I am not going to do the garand deal. He settled on a mossy shotgun for the peper box, the best flint lock, and the surefire. I'll be picking them up on sunday. You'll be disappointed when you finally find out how much they are not worth. It's your world...I just live in it. 
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lol what modern m1 thread?
Either way, I copied that after a vietnam gunners sidearm that went in to CMP some years ago. Had a ID tag on it telling where it came from. By the stories I heard non issue weapons were a big thing to have if you were a gunner, stuff like chromed revolvers.... IF and that was a BIG IF you could get something "different" you were the shit. Apparently somebody got a hold of a m1 garand, cut the stock off of it and made a leather scabbard that tied to his belt and his leg. Basically he made something thats able to be moved around in tight spaces but had alittle more "reach" if needed. After vietnam it was tossed in a box, scabbard and all and rediscovered when CMP was grading them found the rifle, still in the scabbard with a hang tag tied to the trigger guard with its information. That stock actually cost me $550. Long story short a buddy was shooting some korean ammo and BOOM the gun blows up. My very expensive H&R off center stock that took me several years to find was split longways almost all the way inhalf. Sooooo I gorilla glued it back togeather.......After a while I figured it would be fun to punk some gun forums by "destroying" a garand. It took 4 different garands in various conditons but I staged pictures of me "working" on a "old gun" that I found in "grand dads" closet. The pictures started as a unmolested winchester, (just a photo of its markings, then I "cut" the stock and "sanded" the rifle until it looked chrome. I actually had a m1 that was so worn from cleaning it looked chrome. I had death threats because people thought I messed up a winny when in reality only a busted stock was hurt. I figured it would never hold but its been like that for 6-7 years now, I occasionally....every couple of years shoot it. Accuracy suffers but you can still hit a pie plate at 100 yards standing with it. I took it to a service rifle competiton as a joke right after it happined. After the match I brought it back out and went up against a newer shooter with a NM m14 (some fat guy with a thick wallet and no skills) and out shot him at 200 yards  not bragging to much there because somebody who half way knew how to shoot would have tore me a new one but what I am trying to say is at 100-200 yards a man sized target would be fair game to somebody especially if a rest was around like a broken m60 in the door of a chopper.
Little tid bit of history, I was not doing that to be "tactical" I had a broken stock and wanted to "clone" the gun from a interesting story. |
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That stock actually cost me $550. Long story short a buddy was shooting some korean ammo and BOOM the gun blows up. My very expensive H&R off center stock that took me several years to find was split longways almost all the way inhalf. Sooooo I gorilla glued it back togeather.......After a while I figured it would be fun to punk some gun forums by "destroying" a garand. It took 4 different garands in various conditons but I staged pictures of me "working" on a "old gun" that I found in "grand dads" closet. The pictures started as a unmolested winchester, (just a photo of its markings, then I "cut" the stock and "sanded" the rifle until it looked chrome. I actually had a m1 that was so worn from cleaning it looked chrome. I had death threats because people thought I messed up a winny when in reality only a busted stock was hurt. I remember that thread over on THR I believe it was.
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Actually I took your advice, I am not going to do the garand deal. He settled on a mossy shotgun for the peper box, the best flint lock, and the surefire. I'll be picking them up on sunday. You'll be disappointed when you finally find out how much they are not worth. It's your world...I just live in it.
True. I was an MSG stationed at the Kabul embassy in 1973. Same scam, "historic" guns produced in some primitive Khyber Pass hole-in-wall workshop and left to "age" in gutters for a few months, then sold to foreigners. |
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when I was in Afghanistan in 2008, there were basically three classes of weapons we could bring back (I understand the rules have since changed)
1) the kyber pass copy guns- pure junk, often won't even chamber a round (and maybe that is a good thing!) 2) the mixmaster hodge podged martini's sniders and lebels - the lebels often had the post 1898 date of manufacture ground off and a more "acceptable" pre 1898 date put on to pass muster with customs rules 3) really good quality original all correct martini's sniders and lebels- not in the greatest of condition mind you- but I managed to pick up a couple dozen decent rifles that I gave to friends as gifts and some I kept for myself and do shoot most of the so called jingle guns- muzzle loaders or kyber pass copy martinis and sniders- with the intricate inlays in them- were junk- never bought any of those. |
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when I was in Afghanistan in 2008...
... really good quality original all correct martini's sniders and lebels- not in the greatest of condition mind you- but I managed to pick up a couple dozen decent rifles . I'm REALLY surprised there were a couple dozen all correct rifles left in the entire country combined by 2008. |
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$200 shotgun for a $150 flash light and two $25 guns, I can deal with that. And that should tell you something if he agreed to that deal instead of the Garand. He knew exactly what they were worth from the get go. Funny thing, I JUST sold one of the pistols for $370 shipped.
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$200 shotgun for a $150 flash light and two $25 guns, I can deal with that. And that should tell you something if he agreed to that deal instead of the Garand. He knew exactly what they were worth from the get go. Funny thing, I JUST sold one of the pistols for $370 shipped. So you sold one to someone fully knowing that they might be bullshit and not fully knowing that they aren't? Did you have them looked at before selling? |
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Dont jump to conclusions, I stated that it was a very crude pistol and told him NOT to try to fire it. It's not like I said it was a "rare 1852 afghan flint lock picked off osama's dead body" jesus....
All but the enfield are sold, my buddy sold the other two in a FTF deal for $300 each for the rifle and the other flint lock. |
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Dont jump to conclusions, I stated that it was a very crude pistol and told him NOT to try to fire it. It's not like I said it was a "rare 1852 afghan flint lock picked off osama's dead body" jesus.... All but the enfield are sold, my buddy sold the other two in a FTF deal for $300 each for the rifle and the other flint lock. I didn't ask if you glorified the history of the pistol, I asked did you disclose that it MAY be a fake made in some Kyber Pass shit hole? Judging from your response I'm going to guess no. Glad to see honor is still a virtue men hold with some importance. 
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Jumping the gun are we? How can you make a assumption with out knowing any facts of the deal? Kinda seems feigned dontcha think?
I listed it as a CRUDE flint lock afghanistan bring back: 1. it's a flint lock 2. it's crude 3. it's from afghanistan 4. it was brought back 5. I warned the buyer before he sent payment that this is a wall hanger ONLY, that it was very crude and should not be shot at all. All he would have had to do is say "Oh, I bought this to fire...." and I would have let him out of the deal. What did I lie about? May we all bow down to enema for his never ending knowlege of stuff that he knows nothing about. |
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Jumping the gun are we? How can you make a assumption with out knowing any facts of the deal? Kinda seems feigned dontcha think? I listed it as a CRUDE flint lock afghanistan bring back: 1. it's a flint lock 2. it's crude 3. it's from afghanistan 4. it was brought back 5. I warned the buyer before he sent payment that this is a wall hanger ONLY, that it was very crude and should not be shot at all. All he would have had to do is say "Oh, I bought this to fire...." and I would have let him out of the deal. What did I lie about? May we all bow down to enema for his never ending knowlege of stuff that he knows nothing about. So with all of that (none of which you mention that it may be a fake to the buyer) the buyer was willing to shell out $370? Yeah, I'm sure that's the whole story. |
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