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1/14/2013 12:23:42 PM EDT
Please tell me Midway didn't send me what I think they sent me.











Are these tracers?

 
1/14/2013 1:55:59 PM EDT
[#1]
No, I don't think so.  I've only used rifle tracers but the phosphorous is actually on the exterior of the bullet not the base.
1/14/2013 2:08:19 PM EDT
[#2]
We used 9mm tracer in AT-4 sub caliber trainers
back in the day, so its possible it could be tracer.

I never saw the bottom of one.
1/14/2013 2:12:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Maybe frangible, what did u order exactly?

One way to find out.

Choot 'em
1/14/2013 2:13:11 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


No, I don't think so.  I've only used rifle tracers but the phosphorous is actually on the exterior of the bullet not the base.
No, it's not on a standard military tracer, it's usually capped by a copper foil disk.  



Here's a pic of a rifle tracer:





 
1/14/2013 2:16:41 PM EDT
[#5]
I've never seen exposed phosphorous on a tracer. Pistol, or rifle.

This is an M856 just pulled, and like the picture in the above post, they have a copper closer cup on them also.



As for the OP, I have no idea, but I would look up the company of the bullet you actually purchased, and compare. If they are different, then I would question Midway.

@ SharpCharge: What tracers have you seen with the phosphorous on the exterior of the tracer?

This is how a Military tracer is built, and I can't see commercial being to far off from this:



No exposed phosphorous, and it is on the interior of the BASE of the bullet.
1/14/2013 2:17:38 PM EDT
[#6]
It's lead with that hard packed powdery crap in the middle.  I got them several years ago from Midway, they were advertised as pulled 115gr fmj 9mm bullets $20/500 and I bought a bunch, just now getting around to loading some of them. I shoot on a buddies land, about 400 acres of dry west Texas grassland- I am not about to start a fire on his property.


Quoted:


Maybe frangible, what did u order exactly?



One way to find out.



Choot 'em






 
1/14/2013 2:21:30 PM EDT
[#7]
Those are pulled bullets.
1/14/2013 2:23:19 PM EDT
[#8]
The pull marks give them away?  


Quoted:


Those are pulled bullets.






 
1/14/2013 2:33:30 PM EDT
[#9]
See how much they weigh?

Set one on the ground outside and put a torch to it.

If it burns bright its a tracer, if not, its just some odd base markings.

They could possibly be a 9mm tracer bullet...

Pic of 9mm tracers:


http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8251481

And some cut aways:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=528076
1/14/2013 2:37:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
See how much they weigh?

Set one on the ground outside and put a torch to it.

If it burns bright its a tracer, if not, its just some odd base markings.

They could possibly be a 9mm tracer bullet...

Pic of 9mm tracers:
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1885124702/8251481/ad6882639cea751262d2dcab40644132.jpg

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8251481

And some cut aways:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=528076


Thanks, WI57. Now I've seen exposed phosphorous in pistol bullets. What's the burnout on those? I take it those are safe for non-chrome lined pistol barrels.

In 10yrs. in the Infantry, I've never seen 9mm tracers, except for the AT4 training rounds.

ETA: I read the thread you linked, thanks.

1/14/2013 2:39:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
See how much they weigh?

Set one on the ground outside and put a torch to it.

If it burns bright its a tracer, if not, its just some odd base markings.

They could possibly be a 9mm tracer bullet...

Pic of 9mm tracers:
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1885124702/8251481/ad6882639cea751262d2dcab40644132.jpg

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8251481

And some cut aways:
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=528076


Thanks, WI57. Now I've seen exposed phosphorous in pistol bullets. What's the burnout on those?



I didn't know it was exposed either until I went looking for the AT4 trainer rounds.
Did some reading and the burn out was around 500m +/-  IIRC.
1/14/2013 3:06:36 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:





Quoted:

No, I don't think so.  I've only used rifle tracers but the phosphorous is actually on the exterior of the bullet not the base.
No, it's not on a standard military tracer, it's usually capped by a copper foil disk.  



Here's a pic of a rifle tracer:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/mkern2520/FULLuftm856.jpg

 


I've got some down stairs, I may have to go pull one to see.  Maybe I was mistaking the orange tip for the actual tracer.  



 
1/14/2013 4:51:02 PM EDT
[#13]
They actually look like frangible bullets that use that compressed bullet stuff for indoor ranges.
1/19/2013 5:02:08 PM EDT
[#14]
OP, any word on what these were?
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