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Posted: 11/23/2009 6:55:59 PM EDT
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The ACR has not even been released yet but some fanboys swear by it already. I say get a SCAR and then start saving your pennies again because there is no telling when the ACR will actually be released. And don't hold your breath thinking the SCAR will drop in price because of the ACR release. I would bet a paycheck or two against that happening plus the SCAR already has a .mil contract and ther ACR is just "trying" to go after one. Day late and dollar short if you ask me.
I am waiting for the black SCAR to be released before I pull the trigger and get one. Now if the ACR was already available then I would have to compare the two but as it stands, the SCAR has no competition. |
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And we all know the government ONLY buys the best...never a back-room deal made with a money-in-pocket politician :)
lol get over yourselves guys. Scars fine, but it's not AWESOME just because they got some pencil pusher in the .gov to purchase the damn thing. |
| I love it when people bash the SCAR and tell people to get an ACR when 99% of the people giving this advise has never held, shot or even seen an ACR in person. They probably haven't seen, held or shot a SCAR either but being that Magpul came up with the "initial" design it is somehow supposed to be perfect. I will get a SCAR when RSR or Davidson's gets them in stock and will probably do the same for an ACR but I will withold my judgement until the ACR is actually available. It is still a Bushmaster though so I may pass on the ACR. |
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I love it when people bash the SCAR and tell people to get an ACR when 99% of the people giving this advise has never held, shot or even seen an ACR in person. They probably haven't seen, held or shot a SCAR either but being that Magpul came up with the "initial" design it is somehow supposed to be perfect. I will get a SCAR when RSR or Davidson's gets them in stock and will probably do the same for an ACR but I will withold my judgement until the ACR is actually available. It is still a Bushmaster though so I may pass on the ACR. Point well made sir 
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They just got my some SCAR's at my local shop. My wife looked at them and told me it was "cute." The next day she told me it wasnt just cute it was "sexy," lol. Maybe I'll actually buy one, lol. my local shop got a few too.. when i asked to see one they said they were sealed and i could not unless i bought one 
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Tell the wounded warriors that they gave free ACR's at the AAC silencer shoot that the ACR doesn't exist yet. It's in production, just not available apparently. Probably not even high production, but it's obvously produced - they gave them away. I am well aware of the Wounded Warrior give-a-ways and no one in this thread has said the ACR is VaporWare. It is not available to the general public yet and about 99.9% of the population saying the ACR is better than the SCAR has never even held or shot both weapons to even give a fair comparison. Too many people are caught up in this branding war/fanboy stuff and are giving advice that should be labeled as just opinion or thoughts because it is not based on facts. The ACR that is going to be released to the civilians is made by Bushmaster which makes it a Bushmaster ACR with Magpul furniture, nothing more. I am not saying this is a bad thing yet because I have neither held not shot one. It owuld also seem that a lot of people are saying the ACR is better because it looks better. Now that is funny! |
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They just got my some SCAR's at my local shop. My wife looked at them and told me it was "cute." The next day she told me it wasnt just cute it was "sexy," lol. Maybe I'll actually buy one, lol. DO IT!!! I'll have to admit, I'm very jealous of you. I only wish I could find a girl that thought a gun was "sexy", and the fact that it's a SCAR is just icing on the cake. |
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So just because remington released some staged photos of some guys in multicam holding the ACR, the ACR is suddenly a good gun?
Come back to me in a year, and then there might be a foundation for discussing the merits of the ACR. FWIW, I have one reserved. But it has a long way to go before it can rival the 5000 XCR's sold, or the SCAR's being fielded in A-Stan |
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So just because remington released some staged photos of some guys in multicam holding the ACR, the ACR is suddenly a good gun? Come back to me in a year, and then there might be a foundation for discussing the merits of the ACR. FWIW, I have one reserved. But it has a long way to go before it can rival the 5000 XCR's sold, or the SCAR's being fielded in A-Stan Just because remington GAVE away production models to wounded warriors at the silencer shoot.... get over yourself. what merits? they all go "point, click, bang"...give me a break. And the SCAR being fielded in Astan is a ridiculous bean-counter statement. The only reason it was bought was politics and the fact that they put a non-operator in charge of buying crap in the .mil - it being in use by the .mil in no way shape or form tells us ANYTHING about the quality. Otherwise, in your world, MRE's are THE BEST food in a bag, the ACU is the BEST camo available and the M9 is the BEST pistol in the world! GIVE ME A BREAK. btw - I have no clue how the SCAR vs ACR turns out and could care less - I just hate to see people gloat over the glorious .mil doing backdoor politics with FN & Colt and us sheep thinking it's a good thing. |
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So just because remington released some staged photos of some guys in multicam holding the ACR, the ACR is suddenly a good gun? Come back to me in a year, and then there might be a foundation for discussing the merits of the ACR. FWIW, I have one reserved. But it has a long way to go before it can rival the 5000 XCR's sold, or the SCAR's being fielded in A-Stan Just because remington GAVE away production models to wounded warriors at the silencer shoot.... get over yourself. what merits? they all go "point, click, bang"...give me a break. And the SCAR being fielded in Astan is a ridiculous bean-counter statement. The only reason it was bought was politics and the fact that they put a non-operator in charge of buying crap in the .mil - it being in use by the .mil in no way shape or form tells us ANYTHING about the quality. Otherwise, in your world, MRE's are THE BEST food in a bag, the ACU is the BEST camo available and the M9 is the BEST pistol in the world! GIVE ME A BREAK. btw - I have no clue how the SCAR vs ACR turns out and could care less - I just hate to see people gloat over the glorious .mil doing backdoor politics with FN & Colt and us sheep thinking it's a good thing. How about coming back and having an informed opinion when you actually own an ACR. |
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So just because remington released some staged photos of some guys in multicam holding the ACR, the ACR is suddenly a good gun? Come back to me in a year, and then there might be a foundation for discussing the merits of the ACR. FWIW, I have one reserved. But it has a long way to go before it can rival the 5000 XCR's sold, or the SCAR's being fielded in A-Stan Just because remington GAVE away production models to wounded warriors at the silencer shoot.... get over yourself. what merits? they all go "point, click, bang"...give me a break. And the SCAR being fielded in Astan is a ridiculous bean-counter statement. The only reason it was bought was politics and the fact that they put a non-operator in charge of buying crap in the .mil - it being in use by the .mil in no way shape or form tells us ANYTHING about the quality. Otherwise, in your world, MRE's are THE BEST food in a bag, the ACU is the BEST camo available and the M9 is the BEST pistol in the world! GIVE ME A BREAK. btw - I have no clue how the SCAR vs ACR turns out and could care less - I just hate to see people gloat over the glorious .mil doing backdoor politics with FN & Colt and us sheep thinking it's a good thing. How about coming back and having an informed opinion when you actually own an ACR. But the ACR looks cool and Magpul was involved so it must be better than the SCAR right? Again, I wish people would refrain from stating opinion as fact when no one knows the exact configuration of the ACR that will be released and how it will actually function. Stop drinking the tainted Koolaid...althought it should be Flavoraid for these people. That IS what Jim used. |
| The fact that people are comparing the 2 rifles makes me believe that prices will come down over time. I remember seeing them at $8000, 3000 and now 2100. It makes sense to wait at this point. BM has posted that the ACR will come out the first half of 2010. I can wait 8 or 9 months for prices to come down and comparisons to be made |
| Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. |
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Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. You will definately see insane price gouging, with reasons from "low serial #" to "Chris Costa touched this rifle" with pricing to start at $2040, the price of the ACR may drop below the SCAR a few months in |
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Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. You will definately see insane price gouging, with reasons from "low serial #" to "Chris Costa touched this rifle" with pricing to start at $2040, the price of the ACR may drop below the SCAR a few months in If $2040 is retail on the SCAR, the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500 The SCAR though is still a military weapon, SOCOM no less, and military weapons will always cost more the hobbyist weapons. |
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There are several threads in which people have posted dealer pricing on the SCAR and it is above your qouted retail price. It is in the neighborhood of $2200 dealer cost. Some wholesalers may be a little cheaper or a little more expensive but that is a close figure for dealer pricing on the SCAR so don't expect it to fall much lower than $2300-$2400 out the door pricing from dealers.
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Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. You will definately see insane price gouging, with reasons from "low serial #" to "Chris Costa touched this rifle" with pricing to start at $2040, the price of the ACR may drop below the SCAR a few months in If $2040 is retail on the SCAR, the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500 The SCAR though is still a military weapon, SOCOM no less, and military weapons will always cost more the hobbyist weapons. |
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There are several threads in which people have posted dealer pricing on the SCAR and it is above your qouted retail price. It is in the neighborhood of $2200 dealer cost. Some wholesalers may be a little cheaper or a little more expensive but that is a close figure for dealer pricing on the SCAR so don't expect it to fall much lower than $2300-$2400 out the door pricing from dealers.
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Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. You will definately see insane price gouging, with reasons from "low serial #" to "Chris Costa touched this rifle" with pricing to start at $2040, the price of the ACR may drop below the SCAR a few months in If $2040 is retail on the SCAR, the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500 The SCAR though is still a military weapon, SOCOM no less, and military weapons will always cost more the hobbyist weapons. My bad, I mistyped. What I meant to say was if $2040 is retail on the ACR the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the FN SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500. Yes Dealer cost on the SCAR is roughly $2200. Most dealers have a 10-15% mark up which translates to $2420-$2530. Unless some dealer is committed to be the bargin option and has a sub 10% markup I dont expect SCAR's to go for less than $2400 unless FN drops the dealer cost. |
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There are several threads in which people have posted dealer pricing on the SCAR and it is above your qouted retail price. It is in the neighborhood of $2200 dealer cost. Some wholesalers may be a little cheaper or a little more expensive but that is a close figure for dealer pricing on the SCAR so don't expect it to fall much lower than $2300-$2400 out the door pricing from dealers.
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Prices will be inflated on the ACR for sure unless it stuarates the market right off the bat but when you are comparing the initial prices for the SCAR you are not talking about FNs prices. You are talking about price gougers because in all of this, FN has never changed their dealer prices. You will definately see insane price gouging, with reasons from "low serial #" to "Chris Costa touched this rifle" with pricing to start at $2040, the price of the ACR may drop below the SCAR a few months in If $2040 is retail on the SCAR, the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500 The SCAR though is still a military weapon, SOCOM no less, and military weapons will always cost more the hobbyist weapons. My bad, I mistyped. What I meant to say was if $2040 is retail on the ACR the street price should be in the 1700-1800 range, while the FN SCAR price will stabilize at around $2400-2500. Yes Dealer cost on the SCAR is roughly $2200. Most dealers have a 10-15% mark up which translates to $2420-$2530. Unless some dealer is committed to be the bargin option and has a sub 10% markup I dont expect SCAR's to go for less than $2400 unless FN drops the dealer cost. Gotcha 
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