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3/14/2012 3:56:20 AM EDT
So i have a local shop that advertises they can duracoat firearms. I talked to the guy about getting one of my rifles done. The guy told me it wont come off.
My question is; is it worth it? and how will it last getting tossed around. I want one of my AR's to be red.
3/13/2012 11:27:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Duracoat comes right off with Zipstrip.
3/14/2012 12:47:16 AM EDT
[#2]
duracoat is great check out nuntnfancy reviews on it on youtbe..and red will to each his own post pics if you get it
3/13/2012 10:47:08 PM EDT
[#3]
I put duracoat on one of my AR's and has held up very well. Not quite as tough as cerakote but IMO is better for the average diy'er because it does not require oven curing, it air cures. Also have a 1911 with duracoat and is gtg.  Just my .02
3/14/2012 1:07:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
duracoat is great check out nuntnfancy reviews on it on youtbe..and red will to each his own post pics if you get it


I looked up nuntnfancy and It looks kinda painstaking. I dont have a place to do it. So would you guys pay a gun shot to do it? and trust them?
3/15/2012 4:41:56 AM EDT
[#5]
well hell..if nutnfancy says its good stuff then its got to be!!  :(  

I started off in the refinishing business doing duracoat and lets just say that I no longer offer it. Cerakote is a more robust product hands down in every way.  Now I will also say this.....honesty is the only way to run a business.  If you go to someone and they tell you ANY coating will "not come off" they are straight lying.  Each and every coating out there will wear.  Its how it wears is whats important.  Cerakote will out wear Duracoat but keep in mind that Cerakote is a coating and will wear with time.....just they way it is.    Also ask about there prep process....

and yes to the last post....if you are not comfortable doing it yourself or have the proper tools then for sure take it to a applicator you trust.  If there is none around, there are a ton on the internet.  I am one of those tons of applicators.
3/15/2012 7:27:03 AM EDT
[#6]
As another professional refinisher I can tell you Jeff hit the nail on the head. There is no coating that wont wear, scratch, or can not be removed. How well the coating will preform depends on how well it is applied.  There is also no BEST coating. Each coating has it strengths and weakness. There is a coating that is best for your application, ie a hard coating will not preform as well on a soft flexible item, such as AI panels or Butler Creek flip open caps. The coating you choose should also depend on the look you want, colors you want, and feel you want. Another factor is choosing a coating is the temp range the finished item will see. Also some coatings are better than others for replicating factory finishes.

The durability of any coating will vary upon certain conditions, Prep is the most critical. Scrimp or cut corners during prep and it will come back to bite you. Two part coatings will also wear differently depending on the amount of the catalyst or hardener, also if it is mixed in well. How it is sprayed on can affect it, the thickness can affect it, etc, etc, etc. I have refinished countless botched DIY jobs. DuraCoat can be a real PIA to remove. I have seen a CeraKote "H" series DIY home job (that a local guy did) that could be scraped off with your thumb nail.

If it is applied correctly DuraCoat will provide a long lasting great looking finish.

We apply CeraKote, DuraCoat, and KG GunKote. If you go to our website there is a page explaining each in detail Link to info

That being said. As a professional refinisher I can use any coating I desire on my own personal firearms. The majority have CeraKote Finishes on the metal. Most of my own camo is done in DuraCoat.

Edit: for you DIY guys, I am always more than happy to answer your question or give you advice before or during your project. You can call, email, or PM me.

Joe



3/15/2012 4:37:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
As another professional refinisher I can tell you Jeff hit the nail on the head. There is no coating that wont wear, scratch, or can not be removed. How well the coating will preform depends on how well it is applied.  There is also no BEST coating. Each coating has it strengths and weakness. There is a coating that is best for your application, ie a hard coating will not preform as well on a soft flexible item, such as AI panels or Butler Creek flip open caps. The coating you choose should also depend on the look you want, colors you want, and feel you want. Another factor is choosing a coating is the temp range the finished item will see. Also some coatings are better than others for replicating factory finishes.

The durability of any coating will vary upon certain conditions, Prep is the most critical. Scrimp or cut corners during prep and it will come back to bite you. Two part coatings will also wear differently depending on the amount of the catalyst or hardener, also if it is mixed in well. How it is sprayed on can affect it, the thickness can affect it, etc, etc, etc. I have refinished countless botched DIY jobs. DuraCoat can be a real PIA to remove. I have seen a CeraKote "H" series DIY home job (that a local guy did) that could be scraped off with your thumb nail.

If it is applied correctly DuraCoat will provide a long lasting great looking finish.

We apply CeraKote, DuraCoat, and KG GunKote. If you go to our website there is a page explaining each in detail Link to info

That being said. As a professional refinisher I can use any coating I desire on my own personal firearms. The majority have CeraKote Finishes on the metal. Most of my own camo is done in DuraCoat.

Edit: for you DIY guys, I am always more than happy to answer your question or give you advice before or during your project. You can call, email, or PM me.

Joe





Nice that is a great site you got there Joe.
3/15/2012 7:03:22 PM EDT
[#8]
the one good thing about duracoat is that although its no miracle coating its fairly easy to apply at home and get professional results. if after a while  you have a few wear areas or dings you can get away with lightly sanding with  like 600 grit and give it another coat or 2. it will look brand new again. the prep work is heck of alot less second time around because you dont have to blast or parkerize again. just scuff degrease and spray.duracoat covers well and hides alot of rough areas too as long as you stick with the flat colors.
3/15/2012 9:03:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Remember also that Cerakote comes in a Air Dry formula too. There are not as many color options but you do not have to bake it.
3/16/2012 9:02:37 AM EDT
[#10]
another question. does the finish make the parts harder to fit together? because of the extra layers.
3/16/2012 9:30:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
another question. does the finish make the parts harder to fit together? because of the extra layers.


On Duracoat yes it does a little.  Cerakote no because it is such a thin layer.
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