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8/10/2011 12:30:43 AM EDT
What do you guys suggest for high volume practice rounds for highpower matches?  Im using my regular competittion loads of sierra 69 grainers and varget powder.  Its gettin expensive and my Zombie loads just arent up to the task.  The zombie loads are reloaded surplus 62 gr steel cores with Win 748 powder
8/10/2011 1:15:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Magazine or single feed?
The 77 SMK over 24.0 RE-15 with Rem 7 1/2 primer at 2.260 long is pretty standard for magazine length, but it isn't cheap to make.
The main point is that this load is know to perform very well in Service Rifle and is a good starting point for a magazine length load.
Several others are based on 69 grain bullets over 25.3 RE-15 or Varget which saves a little wear and cost.
8/10/2011 4:21:26 AM EDT
[#2]
For Service Rifle Hi-Power practice at 100 yards using a 200 yard reduced target I used to use IMI 62gr lead core bullets and 25grains of H335.

My competition loads were 69gr SMK with 26gr Varget.

8/10/2011 4:33:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Try the bulk Hornady 55 gr bullets, either the sp's or the fmj's.  Believe it or not the fmj's will clean a 100 or 200 yd target every time from my experience.  Now Hornady don't you screw up your quality control and make a liar out of me!
8/10/2011 8:24:28 AM EDT
[#4]
I use hornady 55 gr sp's for my 200yd match off hand  and rapid fire loads, even at Perry.
They are more than accurate enough to clean the target, and cheap.
'Borg
8/10/2011 8:51:08 AM EDT
[#5]
search out and buy larger boxes of bullets and larger totes of powder (at a better rate of course)

8/10/2011 1:00:47 PM EDT
[#6]
You may want to invest in a 22LR upper and practice at 50 and 100.

they (the grand committee of 'they') say that 22LR at 100 is great training for wind reading and therefore helpful for the 600.


edit:  otherwise dryfiring is helpful as well
8/10/2011 4:29:20 PM EDT
[#7]
22LR
8/10/2011 5:06:52 PM EDT
[#8]
By the time you pay for a .22 rimfire upper you could have stockpiled 4K to 6K Sierra bullets. Try some 52 or 53 grain match bullets, they're usually cheaper by at least 25% compared to 69-77 grainers.

Buy in quantity whenever possible. It doesn't help to practice with substandard ammo. If your group is off the mark was it your zero, the ammo or you? No way to know. I just load mass quantities of match ammo because I like the consistency. It's not that much more expensive.
8/10/2011 5:23:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
By the time you pay for a .22 rimfire upper you could have stockpiled 4K to 6K Sierra bullets. Try some 52 or 53 grain match bullets, they're usually cheaper by at least 25% compared to 69-77 grainers.

Buy in quantity whenever possible. It doesn't help to practice with substandard ammo. If your group is off the mark was it your zero, the ammo or you? No way to know. I just load mass quantities of match ammo because I like the consistency. It's not that much more expensive.

despite mentioning the 22LR upper this is also what I do

any friggen upper worth spending money is $900-$1,000 IIRC and that is a lot of components.
8/10/2011 5:52:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I use hornady 55 gr sp's for my 200yd match off hand  and rapid fire loads, even at Perry.
They are more than accurate enough to clean the target, and cheap.
'Borg


yep,  I was using my 55 Hornadys with BLC2 and in my RRA NM and it holds it's own at 100.  
There are better powders but I had it to use up.
8/11/2011 12:56:55 PM EDT
[#11]
60 gr. Hornady or Sierras on top of 24-25 graind WIN 748 for 100 yds.
52 53 work the best
That's the load I used to use before I bought a CLE .22 upper.
I shoot more then I did with my centerfire upper.  The .22 upper has at least 10,000 rounds through it.  Other pros is that I spend less time reloading for practice. The resale value is around $700-800 so you lose perhaps a few hundred.
I think it is a worthwhile investment.  My scores have gone up and my positions have improved.  I learned a lot shooting it in practice. The rimfire ammo is the standard vel. Aguila from the CMP.  A case used to go for about $150 now it is $230.
8/11/2011 2:37:24 PM EDT
[#12]




Quoted:

What do you guys suggest for high volume practice rounds for highpower matches? Im using my regular competittion loads of sierra 69 grainers and varget powder. Its gettin expensive and my Zombie loads just arent up to the task. The zombie loads are reloaded surplus 62 gr steel cores with Win 748 powder


Slow down and analyze everything you did until the stick went bang. Rember how your breathing was, were you at optimum natural point of aim, what was the wind doping, was your trigger pull smooth and aligned correctly, and all the other factors that you control. You'll increase your accuracy a ton more than if you just go shoot a bunch of ammo.



If you're just practicing triger pull, just dry fire or use snap caps. If you are practicing for competition....shoot what you'll be shooting in the match. Slowly, with a self critique after every shot...even before you look for your poi.



Shooting less accurate loads is just pissing in the wind. What's to be gained?



If I'm 'practicing' I'm usually also optimizing the load for that particular stick. No 2 rifles shoot the same exact load with the same degree of accuracy. You have to match the load to the individual weapon to maximize accuracy.



Guys who tell you "this recipe will be deadly accurate for your rifle" usually don't have a clue about working up a load for a particular rifle. You have to match the best pill, powder charge, and setback for that individual rifles barrel harmonics and chamber.



YMMV.

8/11/2011 4:06:14 PM EDT
[#13]
If you are shooting CMP matches without sighters, practice ammo that is different than your competition ammo is a mistake. What you are doing in practice is trying to nail down your zero, and two types of ammo make that difficult. Pick something that shoots well, and is maybe a little less expensive and load that for matches and practice. I've heard the Hornady 55s are very accurate, and Sierra 60 Varmint bullets are also very good.

B
8/12/2011 5:07:24 AM EDT
[#14]
I use V-Max(s) or B-Tips as practice bullets for HP.  They may not be quite as good as SMK(s)/Bergers, but they shoot an order of magnitude better than FMJ / Hornady 55 SP / Midway Dogtowns etc.
8/12/2011 10:35:01 AM EDT
[#15]
I use the 69's over the 52's or 53's.  I buy them in lots of 500.  The price difference is only $8.  A small price to pay to me to practice with a dedicated load.
8/12/2011 10:42:30 AM EDT
[#16]
I appreciate all the input guys.  I guess I should stop bein so cheap.  I follow the rule "train As you fight"   SO bulk sierras are prob what ill stick with.  The cheap pulled 62 gr penetrators and surplus brass are great for carbine loads but will never find there way into my service rifle chamber.
8/12/2011 12:08:18 PM EDT
[#17]
Go to Wideners and get the Prvi Partizan 75gr match bullets. They're decently accurate, and cheap relatively speaking.
8/12/2011 2:00:09 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Go to Wideners and get the Prvi Partizan 75gr match bullets. They're decently accurate, and cheap relatively speaking.


This. They also have 69 grainers, but I don't believe they are in stock right now.
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