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11/6/2010 7:47:28 AM EDT
How can you tell which extractor you have? ie. the old one that's prone to issues, or the new, replacement one?
11/6/2010 7:50:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Look at the front face of the extractor.  If it has a small cutout in the "claw", it's the new one.
Here's another way:  Look at some of your fired brass.  If the case rim is all torn up, you have the new extractor.
11/6/2010 7:56:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Here's another way:  Look at some of your fired brass.  If the case rim is all torn up, you have the new extractor.


I remember that day

11/6/2010 8:40:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Here's a pic of the new extractor, notice the groove in the middle of the claw and lack of a circular depression around the extractor spring hole for the O-ring:

HTH...
Tomac
11/6/2010 8:44:11 AM EDT
[#4]
More pictures (just not very good ones)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=43&t=326089
11/6/2010 8:50:58 AM EDT
[#5]
does this chewed brass condition  go away after awhile ?  What is causing it ?    i just checked my extractor and found alot of brass shavings under the extractor and in the firing pin channel,  definitely a place to keep an eye on.
11/6/2010 9:16:39 AM EDT
[#6]
Need to get a new pic of those extractors. The curly hair on that one is distracting.
11/6/2010 1:04:57 PM EDT
[#7]
If you get the Ratworx bolt, you won't have to worry about what was going on at MSAR the day they made the extractor in your rifle.
11/7/2010 12:51:04 PM EDT
[#8]
I must have a mutant STG556.  The part that does the extracting looks like the old style.  The part that holds the spring looks likes the new style, no o ring.  The bc is ss, small indent in front of roller.  The bolt appears to be chromed.  

I broke down the bolt yeasterday and cleaned it.  There was alot of brass shaving under the extracter.  It has over 1500 rounds through it, 2/3 of it steel case Wolf or Silver Bear.  Only two hiccups.  One stuck case when it was new.  Ripped the rim off the case.  Full mag dumps and Wolf ammo will do that.  The other problem was also ammo related.  PMC bronze without  powder in the case.  The primer went off and the bullet was stuck in the throat of the chamber.  So far I do not see any reason to change anything.
11/16/2010 10:55:21 PM EDT
[#9]
With the extractor, is that somthing MSAR wants you to send the bold in to have it swapped? Or can I just order the part through them (or somwhere else?) and do it myself?

Mine,too looks like a middle generation from what's described: no indentation on the hook, but no O-ring groove,either. I know mine is a hard chromed bolt,too. I know mine was one of the few non-"special"STGs that followed the green Gabortsdengrabber (or whatever the heck it was) that came with the blacked out stainless carrier,stainless extractor and hard chromed bolt.

Wondering if I should be that concerned with the extrator issue. Maybe Contemplating buying a spare or two for peace of mind.
11/19/2010 6:30:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
With the extractor, is that somthing MSAR wants you to send the bold in to have it swapped? Or can I just order the part through them (or somwhere else?) and do it myself?

Mine,too looks like a middle generation from what's described: no indentation on the hook, but no O-ring groove,either. I know mine is a hard chromed bolt,too. I know mine was one of the few non-"special"STGs that followed the green Gabortsdengrabber (or whatever the heck it was) that came with the blacked out stainless carrier,stainless extractor and hard chromed bolt.

Wondering if I should be that concerned with the extrator issue. Maybe Contemplating buying a spare or two for peace of mind.


That is exactly what I have.  Round locking lug on the stock.  It would be a good idea to have two or three spares.  I know that 1500 rounds is not a high round count.  But it has given me a filling of confidence in my STG556.  I understand the idea behind the hybrid.  But I am not sure adding AR15 parts to the bolt is a good idea for anything other then casual use/range time.
11/19/2010 7:37:42 AM EDT
[#11]
Guess we need to get an indepth photo thread of the different bolts.



I didn't even know that MSAR had stainless steel carriers. Does anyone have a pic of the stainless steel carrier?
11/19/2010 11:17:02 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If you get the Ratworx bolt, you won't have to worry about what was going on at MSAR the day they made the extractor in your rifle.


11/19/2010 12:35:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Guess we need to get an indepth photo thread of the different bolts.

I didn't even know that MSAR had stainless steel carriers. Does anyone have a pic of the stainless steel carrier?


The top back of the carrier has a small indent just in front of the roller.  The ss bc are a bit heavier.
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