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11/10/2006 8:12:10 PM EDT
i was introduced to the m14 this last weekend. i have a m1 carbine and a garand.
my retired chief built this m14 we shot. i asked him to help me build one. he told me he has most of the parts but i need a receiver. can any one tell me where to get a good receiver. cheap, if possible. thanks in advance
11/10/2006 8:19:30 PM EDT
[#1]
In the M14 / M1A world you can get cheap or you can get good.

Invest in a good receiver, the best you can aford.

HTH ~
11/10/2006 8:46:30 PM EDT
[#2]
i will take that advice. now where can i get one.....
11/10/2006 8:49:20 PM EDT
[#3]
For all of your M14 needs www.LRBArms.com
11/10/2006 8:54:55 PM EDT
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11/10/2006 10:25:14 PM EDT
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The LRB is an excellent receiver, but does not justify the recent price increase.  Get Sprinfield Armory receivers for around $450/each Jeez, for the price of one LRB you could buy 2 SAs.  SA receivers are dimensionally spot on and will last a lifetime.  Trust me, a forging is not worth the extra $$
11/11/2006 7:07:53 AM EDT
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11/11/2006 7:25:46 AM EDT
[#7]
You could buy a complete ChiCom rifle for less than $1K and build on it's excellent forged receiver...

I recently picked up this heel stamped POLY TECH




My #1 shooter is built on a heel stamped Norinco receiver.



Just make sure you have SEI or WarBird install and headspace your GI bolt...
11/11/2006 7:47:27 AM EDT
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11/11/2006 3:54:02 PM EDT
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Quoted:

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The LRB is an excellent receiver, but does not justify the recent price increase.  Get Sprinfield Armory receivers for around $450/each Jeez, for the price of one LRB you could buy 2 SAs.  SA receivers are dimensionally spot on and will last a lifetime.  Trust me, a forging is not worth the extra $$


Where can you buy a NEW SA Receiver for $450. SA no longer sales them and the only company that can buy them from SA is Champion's Choice. I received mine in the mail yesterday $500 and $10 for shipping.


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Thanks, I'm probably a year or two behind the curve in keeping track of SA prices.  I thought Quantico Arms or somebody like that used to get them.  Creedmore was always kinda expensive, but they had them too
11/11/2006 4:14:38 PM EDT
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Another alternative is to rescue a safe queen.  Here's my latest addition, all USGI parts mated to an Armscorp USA M14 NM receiver for $1375.00.

11/11/2006 7:37:31 PM EDT
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11/11/2006 11:22:16 PM EDT
[#12]
I agree regarding Warbird.  If he says it's good to go, buy with confidence.  I was speaking with Ted Brown about a week ago and Armscorp came up in the conversation among other things.  He said Armscorp receivers being made now are fine, just as good as Springfield Armory, Inc.  Armscorp receivers are the best value in M14 receivers today.  I've bought parts from Numrich several times and everything always went smooth.  Numrich has a good reputation.

Armscorp USA gives a one year warranty to the original owner.  If it were me, I'd buy the receiver, a barrel and bolt and line up a M14 gunsmith, Warbird, Ted Brown or Smith Enterprise.  Have the gunsmith do the barrel installation and bolt head spacing.  While that is going on, get ammo, magazines and the remaining parts to assemble your rifle.

IMO, time is of the essence.  Better get what you want in the next two months.  Buying a used complete rifle will save you time.  Either way, it's time to act.
11/12/2006 4:37:28 AM EDT
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Quoted:

IMO, time is of the essence.  Better get what you want in the next two months.
 Buying a used complete rifle will save you time.  Either way, it's time to act.


That needed repeating ...
11/12/2006 4:46:57 AM EDT
[#14]
The best receivers are LRB and Springfield, with LRB taking the edge because they're fully machined from a forging and thus closer to the USGI part.

Don't ignore the CHICOM rifles.  The early ones were crude looking, especially the stocks, but they're fully forged and machined receivers, op rods, bolts, etc.  A lot of the breathless criticism of them is from competition.  Replace the cast parts like the rear sight base and charging clip guide and they look real nice.  You can install a US flash hider in most states... although a US suppressor nut needs to be sort of worked on.  Almost all parts are replaceable with US.  Replacing the bolt takes some fitting.

Our checks show receivers are nicely hard, despite rumor.  If in doubt, simply go to a machine shop and have it checked.

Anybody know the proper hardness to check for, and where to test?
11/12/2006 7:44:31 AM EDT
[#15]
$1K for a bare receiver... ouch!  One must really want a forged receiver bad in order to pay that price. If I was looking for a bare receiver, I would consider either SAInc. for $500, or Fulton's Armscorp made to their spec for $425.

Also, I would ask the chief how much for the USGI parts and his time first. It would not only be a shame if you purchased the receiver and found out that he wanted $1K parts reimbursement, it would also put a strain on the friendship.
11/12/2006 7:48:45 AM EDT
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Quoted:Our checks show receivers are nicely hard, despite rumor.  If in doubt, simply go to a machine shop and have it checked.

Anybody know the proper hardness to check for, and where to test?


Agreed, Chinese receiver hardness is not an issue.  Per the USGI drawing 7790189, the surface hardness requirement is 61 to 71 HRD (48 to 60 HRC).  The same drawing shows the Rockwell surface hardness test point is the vertical surface of the operating rod rail at 2 1/8 " aft of the forward end of the receiver (between the center dismount notch and the bolt roller recess).  
11/12/2006 5:54:34 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

IMO, time is of the essence.  Better get what you want in the next two months.
 Buying a used complete rifle will save you time.  Either way, it's time to act.


That needed repeating ...


Whats the big rush? Demorats?
11/12/2006 6:02:13 PM EDT
[#18]
any one have a site for the chincom rifles or armscor receivers
11/12/2006 7:29:52 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 3:13:28 PM EDT
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I ordered one from here today!

www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=703070&chrSuperSKU=&MC=


I would have gone the Fulton route because he specs a better dimensional receiver from Armscorp and does another QA check before shipping it to you. Also, NOBODY makes a M14 type reciever to GI specs anymore.... that is  N-O-B-O-D-Y.    So Numrich is full of it wth regards to that statement.

The last person to get close to GI specs, MKS, ended up with a nightmare on their hands courtesy of the ATF. Also, customers were visited by the ATF asking them to surrender their illegal machine gun.
11/13/2006 3:23:06 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 3:26:20 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 3:35:21 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 3:45:47 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 3:50:04 PM EDT
[#25]
i just got my LRB.

Lou is a great guy.

worth every penny.
its a work of art.
11/13/2006 3:58:54 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 4:06:17 PM EDT
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"The last person to get close to GI specs, MKS, ended up with a nightmare on their hands courtesy of the ATF. Also, customers were visited by the ATF asking them to surrender their illegal machine gun."

MKS was illegally (???) welding M14 receivers back together. I almost got caught up in his scam but I passed!


Is it illegal to weld a receiver back together after it has been cut per the ATF's specs?
11/13/2006 4:14:41 PM EDT
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11/13/2006 6:33:34 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
"The last person to get close to GI specs, MKS, ended up with a nightmare on their hands courtesy of the ATF. Also, customers were visited by the ATF asking them to surrender their illegal machine gun."

MKS was illegally (???) welding M14 receivers back together. I almost got caught up in his scam but I passed!


Is it illegal to weld a receiver back together after it has been cut per the ATF's specs?


Most cases, maybe all cases YES, it is not legal. Could be legal to build a "dealer sample". I will wait on some people from that firearms class to answer!


can-o-worms
11/13/2006 7:22:36 PM EDT
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FO MouseBoy!
11/14/2006 8:06:11 PM EDT
[#31]
why are screech's posts getting deleted?
11/15/2006 3:22:20 AM EDT
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Quoted:
why are screech's posts getting deleted?


I deleted them. I do not like people putting things I did not say in quotes under my name. All is well
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