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Posted: 11/4/2004 3:50:55 AM EDT
can't figure out how to make it eviler. 
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| seen kurt's mods. problem is trying to wrench your neck around to get lower on the weapon. i don't see how anybody does it with rails mounted right on the top without the carry handle. and i don't want to think about what happens to scopes that are mounted forward right on top of the airholes for the barrel and gas system! |
yes, seen it done IM JohnnyMcEldoo, He has pics of the work he did himself on his. You'll have to scroll down a bit, but there's a nice close up. You can't miss it. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=12&t=187447 |
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The problem with going with a straight rail atop the receiver body is that unless you have fitted some sort of folding iron sights you are in the game only until the battery fails on your optical unit, or until the unit itself fails, assuming a supply of batteries. Every rifle MUST include a useable set of iton sights. I have an idea.... |
There's that G36 rail that somebody put on theirs. I cannot find a picture of it. |
Both configurations work. I just wanted my optic closer to the centerline of the barrel. RAF: one of the reasons I went with the OKO was because it has a hard sight built in. Not as good as factory sights but better than nothing. |
I saw that, and that sort of bi-level mounting of sights, both useable with the irons sighting through the optics seems to be the way to go. Trouble with that set-up is that there is not enough height differential to accomodate various heights of optics. A relatively short-in-height optic can always be mounted using risers, but in that set-up, there is not enough height differential available to allow for that option. Moreover, when I asked him about the construction of the iron sights, his response indicated that the irons were pretty basic in construction and limited in their range and type of adjustment. Right overall concept, IMHO, but not quite there, yet. |
I understand. Still, I think the optimal set-up would have decent, useable irons. Remember the original "iron" sights on the rifle? I think that between us we can do far better than that. |
| I didn't have any negative issues. I had it in many pieces. Shortened the barrel, made a new gas ferrel (with a lorger hole to match the enlarged port in the barrel to allow enough gas for shorter barrel) shortened the steel barrel sleeve, re-threaded the barrel and put 'er all back together. |
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I wung it....winged it, you know what I mean. The hardest part was with the barrel nuts on the muzzle.....easy to take off, just that most of us don't have a spanner wrench for them. I ended up making one. I hear that an FAL gas nut wrench fits perfect...it's real easy to take apart and reassemble once you dive in to 'er. |
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Hey Johnny, Would you mind taking a pic of your super sooped up M17 on the floor like in the first pic and posting it? Dawg
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I thinks its pretty feasable. I made my AR a side charger because I found it more comfortable and easier to use.  It would be a good winter project for sure. |
Thanks, and looks awesome! Wow, that is a stubby barrel! Dawg |
No problem. It looks short but the barrel is still 17.5"s long. |
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