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7/12/2013 4:05:30 PM EDT
If you add a barrel shroud to a stock to make it reach the overall 26" length can you then install a shorter barrel ?

I just bought a HTA 90/22 from the EE and would lke to use a 17" stock tapered threaded  barrel but that puts the overall length at only 24 3/4". So I made an aluminum shroud that replace the bull barrel bushing and extends out to make an over all lenght of 26 1/4" In order to remove the shroud you literally have to take the whole stock apart. It has a .1" step that does not show up well in the cheep pics I am posting but it goes from 1" to .9" then out to 1.25".

anyways here is the pics what do you think








I made it flair back out to 1.25 od So I can fit my soon to be free from atf jail tompson machine isis 22

Also should I paint it black or FDE ?


thanks for any info I really dont want to go to jail for 10 years
7/12/2013 5:51:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Pretty sure it would have to be permanently attached.
7/12/2013 5:54:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Pretty sure it would have to be permanently attached.


It must be permanently attached.
7/13/2013 4:02:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Even if the barrel is over the minimum 16"

I am not making a SBR I am just getting to the 26 overall minimum length of the gun. And how much more permanent is there than having to disassemble the stock to remove the shroud ?

Would I just have to drill the aluminum and into the steel a bit and place a pin in it and weld it in ?
7/13/2013 4:16:54 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Even if the barrel is over the minimum 16"

I am not making a SBR I am just getting to the 26 overall minimum length of the gun. And how much more permanent is there than having to disassemble the stock to remove the shroud ?

Would I just have to drill the aluminum and into the steel a bit and place a pin in it and weld it in ?


You can have a short barrel rifle with a barrel that is 16" or more. You still have to meet overall length requirements.
Two conditions must be met to stay out of title II (short barrel rifle) territory:

1. barrel must be at a minimum 16" long or greater.
2. overall length of entire gun must be at a minimum 26" long or greater.




Since you plan on using a "muzzle device" / "barrel shroud" to stay legal, anything attached to the barrel to increase overall length OF THE GUN must be permanently attached. Either 1100' Silver Solder or like you mentioned, drill a BLIND hole through the shroud into the barrel, place a pin, weld over the top of it. Whatever you do has to be a permanent fix. The ATF is very picky on what they consider permanent and what they do not consider permanent.


7/13/2013 5:31:58 AM EDT
[#5]
The OAL is with any telescopic or folding stock fully OPEN.  Folded or closed only the barrel length is critical.

As to a bullpup type I'm thinking the OAL has to be permanent.  If you could simply unscrew the muzzle device that would make the OAL too short and your rifle instantly a NFA item -- unlike a folding/telescoping stock which is specifically addressed in the regulations.  Note the Tavor which has to use a 16.5" barrel to meet the OAL requirements in the USA.

-- Chuck
7/13/2013 5:58:03 AM EDT
[#6]
so if I called it part of the stock and not a barrel shroud it would be ok ? and there is no way to remove the extension without a total disassemble  of the stock. I am not trying to be a ass just want to do it right :). But if I dont have to drill and pin it would make me happy lol although not happy enough to risk my gun owning rights and jail.

I guess its back to the shop to drill and pin and weld the hole :(

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