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Posted: 6/25/2013 8:23:00 AM EDT
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I have a g22 and I am trying to load swc for target shoots. I have Missouri cast. I can't get the weapon to cycle as it hangs just short of battery. My oal is within what my speer manual calls for.
I have polished the feed ramp of the wolf barrel without success. I have also applied some light oil on the bullets (tip). Currently I have a load hung and I am attempting to free it. I know many autos have problems with swc loads and have been through the normal proccedure that it takes to fix the problem. With some trial and err my 1911 never fails to go to battery. What steps would you take to fix this problem. Mike |
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Mike,
You should remove the barrel from the pistol and use the chamber as your test gage. The round should drop right in and rest on the case mouth. I think your bullet is engaging the rifling. I had this problem with a XD in 45cal. The lead in was so short that I actually had to go to a different style bullet. I think if you were to take a sharpie and paint up one of your rounds you would see where the interference is happening. Going with a shorter OAL "may" solve your problem. BTW: I would not and do not use a FCD with cast bullets. It can swage the slightly oversize cast bullet down inside the case. This is a VERY UNDESIRABLE thing. |
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Read the advice just above.
Make the ammunition work in your gun, use the load manual as a guideline. I got caught with a similar problem with two 200 grain LSWC's from different makers. They looked the same, but the ogives were not the same length and one bullet stuck in the rifling sufficiently tight to lock up the gun. So I seated those slightly shorter. |
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ditto Quoted:
Mike, You should remove the barrel from the pistol and use the chamber as your test gage. The round should drop right in and rest on the case mouth. I think your bullet is engaging the rifling. I had this problem with a XD in 45cal. The lead in was so short that I actually had to go to a different style bullet. I think if you were to take a sharpie and paint up one of your rounds you would see where the interference is happening. Going with a shorter OAL "may" solve your problem. BTW: I would not and do not use a FCD with cast bullets. It can swage the slightly oversize cast bullet down inside the case. This is a VERY UNDESIRABLE thing. |
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NO NO NO....
cast bullets are always oversize by at least .001. You can NOT and must NOT go by load data used for jacketed ammo regarding the overall length. What you must do is load the bullet in such a way that it does not engage the bore with its oversized bullet OGIVE. Many times the bullet must be seated just a tad bit short in order for it not to 'STICK' in the leade area of the bore. Make uncharged dummy rounds and test chamber until you get it right for your particular gun. This IS a must. Normally people seat the bullet with the front driving band too far forward...its an easy fix...just seat deeper and work the load up from scratch, it is definitely worth the effort. I think that is one of the hardest things for new cast bullet users to wrap their heads around and I also think it is the one thing that steers people away from using cast. And it's too bad too. It is also the one thing revolver guys don't have to worry with and somehow it makes lots of people think that cast isn't suited for autos when in actuality it works quite well when everything is properly implemented. Don't give up, adjust your seating to your own chamber, you can actually work your seating depth and load charges and end up with serious accuracy benefits just like the rifle guys do... patience grasshopper! ETA: Lone wolf barrel? seat your bullet deeper and see what happens...lone wolf does have a tight chamber...the .001 variance may or may not be a problem, if your cast bullets are bigger than .001 oversize you may need to run them through a sizer. Cast bullets are awesome, but they do require a bit of study |
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Glocks have a reputation for not being able to feed the SWC design. Follow the advice above and keep trying, but you may find that you will never be able to get those SWC to run in your Glock.
https://www.google.com/search?q=glock+vs+SWC&oq=glock+vs+SWC&aqs=chrome.0.57j62l2.5676j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
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BTW.....what would happen if the bullet was seated almost all the way into the case?? Much much higher chamber pressures! You don't want that either! Especially in a .40!!!! They really need to re evaluate their barrel chambers, the whole point of buying an aftermarket barrel is to shoot lead as far as I'm concerned. No point in switching if you are going to stick with jacketed. Over on cast boolits website they were discussing/crabbing about these barrels and difficulty in getting the maker to go back to the lead friendly chamber cut. |
| I had similar problems with my XD40 when I started shooting cast. Found lead pushed up ahead of the case mouth edge due to seating and crimping in one operation. First tried to fix by seating deeper, cartridge would then wedge halfway in chamber about every 4 - 5 rounds. Started seating and crimping in seperate dies, seated longer, problem solved. I now cast a RFN bullet that feeds flawlessly. |
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You your barrel as your case gauge, that will give you your best results. It took a lot of fine turning to get my oal right with the bullets I was using and my M&P 9mm. The Lee seat and crimp die is fine. It takes longer to get dialed as it performs two functions at once, but once it is set it works great. I've loaded almost 2k rounds with that die and it has been consistent and works great. |
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