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Posted: 2/26/2012 7:41:55 AM EDT
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my rcbs 750 is crapping out-drifting.
i've been recommended the 5-0-2 and 5-0-5 but they get crppy write ups on midway. AssaultRifler told me he used a 10-10. i have a lee balance beam that seems to work okay. i bought the 750 to save unloading 200 38 specs. rcbs will replace my 750 if isend them half the price of a new one. sounds like lee! will i be getting a rehabbed one or a new one and should i bother. i'm somewhat of a technophobe  .
tia michael |
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RCBS 505, Hornady-Pacific beam (if you can find one) are both very good.
Get a set of check weights no mater what scale you get (beam or electronic). the less expensive check weight sets do not try to hit specific values for the smaller weights, but are pieces of wire that have been accurately weighed and the weight is provided with the set. Who cares if the check weight is 1.00, 1.10 or 1.50 as long as you know what it weighs. Electron scales come with alignment weights to allow the scale to calibrate its load cell. These weights often must be specific values for the alignment math built in to work correctly. PACT has sold scales with two weights (20 grams and 50 grams) allowing a four point fit for calibration/alignment (0 grams, 20 grams, 50 grams, 70 grams). |
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Spend a little money and buy this one to stop your struggle. Have used one for two years with little problem: http://www.accurateshooter.com/gear-reviews/gempro-250-digital-scale-review/ |
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http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-gempro-250.html This is where I got mine from - good place to do business. |
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http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-gempro-250.html This is where I got mine from - good place to do business. I have this one as well. I love it. The scale should always be more accurate than the desired measurement. All "reloading" scales fail. If you want 25.5 grains of Varget the scale should be able to read 25.5 plus one more digit, because you don't know if you have 25.50 or 25.54 or 25.45. |
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Same thing with the GemPro 250. |
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Hmm, the Brian Enos scale and that Gempro appear to be from the same manufacturer. Look at the logo on them. The Brian Enos is a little cheaper though. Wonder how they compare? Edit, NM, just compared the specs and the Gempro appears to have a greater level of accuracy. |
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http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/my-weigh-gempro-250.html This is where I got mine from - good place to do business. I have this one as well. I love it. The scale should always be more accurate than the desired measurement. All "reloading" scales fail. If you want 25.5 grains of Varget the scale should be able to read 25.5 plus one more digit, because you don't know if you have 25.50 or 25.54 or 25.45. Now that's just silly when it comes to reloading accuracy. I bet one single "stick" of Varget weighs .01 grain. The RCBS 5-0-5 is quite accurate and does just fine in the reloading world. |
 505 here, been using once since the 70's. I have tried digital scales, I always go back to old faithful. The first one RCBS came out with was awful. Mount it solidly at eye level to eliminate parallax error. Don't always believe the reviews at Midway. Especially on the 505.
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RCBS 505, Hornady-Pacific beam (if you can find one) are both very good. Get a set of check weights no mater what scale you get (beam or electronic). the less expensive check weight sets do not try to hit specific values for the smaller weights, but are pieces of wire that have been accurately weighed and the weight is provided with the set. Who cares if the check weight is 1.00, 1.10 or 1.50 as long as you know what it weighs. Electron scales come with alignment weights to allow the scale to calibrate its load cell. These weights often must be specific values for the alignment math built in to work correctly. PACT has sold scales with two weights (20 grams and 50 grams) allowing a four point fit for calibration/alignment (0 grams, 20 grams, 50 grams, 70 grams). i believe pact makes the rcbs rangemaster 750. and they come with check weights you use to calibrate it. at least mine did. 20 and 30 grams i believe. |
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RCBS 505, Hornady-Pacific beam (if you can find one) are both very good. Get a set of check weights no mater what scale you get (beam or electronic). the less expensive check weight sets do not try to hit specific values for the smaller weights, but are pieces of wire that have been accurately weighed and the weight is provided with the set. Who cares if the check weight is 1.00, 1.10 or 1.50 as long as you know what it weighs. Electron scales come with alignment weights to allow the scale to calibrate its load cell. These weights often must be specific values for the alignment math built in to work correctly. PACT has sold scales with two weights (20 grams and 50 grams) allowing a four point fit for calibration/alignment (0 grams, 20 grams, 50 grams, 70 grams). i believe pact makes the rcbs rangemaster 750. and they come with check weights you use to calibrate it. at least mine did. 20 and 30 grams i believe. Just recieved a Rangmaster 750 and used it over the weekend. Im impressed so far. The speed of digital is awesome. No more waiting on the scale to settle. I have been checking the charges periodically with my beam scale though just for peace of mind 
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Quoted: dryflash3, who should i believd then? i may try the 505 once 'cause the price is right. We had a long discussion regarding beam vs. digital scale recently on Accurateshooter.com and it might be useful for you to read through that thread before deciding. http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php/topic,3780849.0.html |
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http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Home%20made/P1170697.jpg 505 here, been using once since the 70's. I have tried digital scales, I always go back to old faithful. The first one RCBS came out with was awful. Mount it solidly at eye level to eliminate parallax error. Don't always believe the reviews at Midway. Especially on the 505. I have the 5-0-2 and recently the ChargeMaster 1500. I am always backchecking the ChargeMaster with the 5-0-2. Balance beam scales, if operated properly, are almost fool proof. Make sure the beam scale base is level in both directions. Keep it level by isolating it structurally from the normal load bench vibrations, bumps and bruises. Keep the dust and dirt off of the fulcrum, beam, and tray. The trickler, like Dryflash3 shows, is almost essential for a smooth measuring operation. |
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jlow, thanks for the link! i readmost of it while i was holding for rcbs to answer the phone. their current deal is: i pay $35 and return my broken scale and they will send me a new one. period.
as cash is currently unavailable i think this would be my bestbet. i haven't loaded rifles in years so pistol is my foreseeable arena of reloading. thanks to all you guys for the help michael |
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RCBS 505, Hornady-Pacific beam (if you can find one) are both very good. Get a set of check weights no mater what scale you get (beam or electronic). the less expensive check weight sets do not try to hit specific values for the smaller weights, but are pieces of wire that have been accurately weighed and the weight is provided with the set. Who cares if the check weight is 1.00, 1.10 or 1.50 as long as you know what it weighs. Electron scales come with alignment weights to allow the scale to calibrate its load cell. These weights often must be specific values for the alignment math built in to work correctly. PACT has sold scales with two weights (20 grams and 50 grams) allowing a four point fit for calibration/alignment (0 grams, 20 grams, 50 grams, 70 grams). i believe pact makes the rcbs rangemaster 750. and they come with check weights you use to calibrate it. at least mine did. 20 and 30 grams i believe. Just recieved a Rangmaster 750 and used it over the weekend. Im impressed so far. The speed of digital is awesome. No more waiting on the scale to settle. I have been checking the charges periodically with my beam scale though just for peace of mind a couple of tricks i learned with the rangemaster 750 is first turn it on at least 10 to 15 min before you need it. this warms up the electronics.i havent noticed any drift but i figure warming it up cant hurt. then calibrate it every time you use it. then after its calibrated and i have been measuring charges for a while ill switch it over to grams and drop a check weight on it to double check its calibration. then switch back to grains and continue weighing charges. |
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