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7/7/2012 3:16:04 PM EDT
So I was shooting my stevens 200  223 today with reloads useing 55 gr dog town bullets from midway  with 25 gr of 4895  and one of the last three shots went through the target exactly side ways... its a perfect outline. This happened at 100 yards, there was a very small amount of wind..... ummmmm 1.5 inch group is the best I can do with my crappy bushnell scope and the sidewinder was right there in the group.  1-9 twist and a 55 gr  should never even be a possibility ..... ANY IDEAS ??  I checked the crown, it looked fine there was no grass or bushes in my way, I am stumped .
7/7/2012 3:31:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I wonder if the bullet was defective.  Your rifle and load should stabilize that bullet with ease.

7/7/2012 3:43:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Yea... defective bullet is the only thing I can think of too that makes sense. I am going to shoot some more tomarrow and see what happens. It is strange that it hit right with the others  though.....
7/7/2012 4:00:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Could you have passed through the target and then the bullet zinged of a rock or something and by luck centered the target?

Was anybody else on the same range?
7/7/2012 5:00:48 PM EDT
[#4]
You are not the first person that has had that happen;although I have shot several 1000s of them and had no issues.I can get about 1 to 1.5 out of them with most loads that i tried.Some have had much better luck with them than I.I will not say that it is the bullet for sure just saying you are not the first that I heard of with that issue
7/7/2012 5:36:07 PM EDT
[#5]
I was the only one there. no way it could have been a ricochet .... I  am going to just keep shooting them and keep an eye out for more odditys ...... tomorrow I am going to try them on some dogs.
I have 500 of them so hopefully not too many of them are sidwinders.. LOL
7/7/2012 5:42:06 PM EDT
[#6]
So it just occurd to me that those bullets are open tipped hollow points... and that if that one was light on lead inside it might make it yaw and hit sideways.... hmmmm I bet that is what happend.
I will have to weigh each one and make sure they are consistent.
7/7/2012 6:52:41 PM EDT
[#7]
are you crimping since you're using a bolt gun?

could the bullet be being knocked off to the side on chambering?

just a thought
7/11/2012 10:33:32 PM EDT
[#8]
I'll have you know this exact same occurrence happened to me with the same rifle but different scope. It is not the gun, it is the bullet. Mine always spun and made it into the group as well. I like the price of the bullet and so the last time I made an order, I ordered the softpoints instead of the hollowpoint. My belief is that the hollowpoint is so irregular in a few of them that they catch the air and tumble. I don't know if it's a fact or not, but it's what happened to me and that's my belief. I haven't tried the softpoints yet, but I'm certain the problem will be solved.
7/12/2012 9:32:12 AM EDT
[#9]
In Highpower matches when we see a bullet go sideways at short range it is normally caused by a low impact - hitting the ground before the target and deflecting upward towards the target.  Happens a fair amount with new shooters shooting at 200 yards.  Not saying this is the case for you - just relating a cause I have seen.
7/12/2012 11:39:24 AM EDT
[#10]
I would expect that for whatever reason this is happening, as long as they hit on nearly the same zero a sidewise bullet is going to tear the daylights out of any animal it hits
7/12/2012 1:28:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Has to do with diameter.  Bullet to small or barrel groove to big or very thin jacket.  On a spitzer type bullet, with lead exposed, look for lead smears on a white  target around the bullet holes. Blow by  past  the bullet in the barrel.  Also give the barrel a good cleaning, might have a carbon ring just in front of the chamber.
7/12/2012 1:39:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Has to do with diameter.  Bullet to small or barrel groove to big or very thin jacket.  On a spitzer type bullet, with lead exposed, look for lead smears on a white  target around the bullet holes. Blow by  past  the bullet in the barrel.  Also give the barrel a good cleaning, might have a carbon ring just in front of the chamber.


I was just thinking that.
Might want to check the diamter of the rest of the bullets.
7/12/2012 3:21:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Ok... so I had JUST cleaned the barrel...... there is no way it could be hitting the ground first..... it could be a diameter issue but I really doubt it, as it would seem that tension (or lack there of) in  the case would be   noticeable .. I really do think it has to do with the open tip hollow point design .
and by the way on sunday I did shoot some more and I did get another sideways bullet.... but I also tagged a prairie dog with one and holy shit... it was most impressive! BUT my 10/22 is the hammer of Thor on dogs!!  
7/12/2012 6:54:19 PM EDT
[#14]
I could imagine that it would be hell on an animal.

Shannon
7/12/2012 7:16:00 PM EDT
[#15]
prolly just a bad bullet, I had some  I loaded for a mini-14 that did that once, a really light load, they wouldn't stabilze untill I increased the load just a bit.
7/14/2012 5:44:43 PM EDT
[#16]
well today I shot up the rest that I had loaded and out of 35,  8 went sideways through the target... and six of them were in the last 10 shots........ coincidence or would a hot barrel make a difference ?  I am going to load up more and increase the powder in increments and try to remember to take my chrony so I can document what is going on better.
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