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Posted: 3/14/2008 2:06:42 PM EDT
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I've played with suppressed rifles and pistols in 5.56, 7.62x51 and 9mm, so I have a basic working knowledge of "what to expect" from a suppressor. I don't own one, but I've always played with the idea and I'm finally thinking of taking the plunge. The primary rifle I'd want to use it on is a Remington 700VS in .22-250rem I use for east coast varmint & predator hunting. Yes, hunting with a suppressor is legal in the area I'd be using it. Also, I'd probably take the existing 26" bbl down to 22" for weight and balance considerations. My main concern is that I haven't met or been able to locate anyone in the US who has suppressed this caliber. I'm looking for answers to the following questions: 1. Any first hand experience with suppressing this caliber? 2. Suggestions on best can to use? 3. It's been suggested by some that I should go with a 7.62 can instead of a 5.56 can based on the increased blast from this caliber - your thoughts? |
22-250 is a necked down .308 and as such has the same volume of gas. My suggestion would be to get a .30 can because of the size. Also, when you burn out your 22-250 you'll be able to simply have a smith twist on a .308 (or 22-250, .243, .260, etc) and still run all the same parts, suppressor included. |
Actually it's not. it's a necked down 250-3000 Savage, and usually is loaded w/ *around* 10gr less powder than the 308 IIRC Silvers said the m4-2000 would work on a 20" barrel. I would think most 223 cans would do the same |
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It all has to do with the blast pressure at the end of the barrel. The blast pressure of a 22-250 out a longer barrel (ie. 22-26") should be less than a short barreled 5.56 carbine. I run my YHM 5.56 Phantom on my 22-250 all the time. It has a 24" barrel on it. It sounds maybe slightly quieter than my 16" 5.56 carbine. It could have something do with the action noise of the AR. In all, I am pleased with it. |
OK Capitan Semantics, if you want to argue the minutia of the 22-250 it is technically based off the 250 Savage (not 250-3000 Savage) but since .308 Winchester is so readily available that is what is most commonly used when forming brass (Factory brass is available so most people don't form 22-250 brass anymore). Furthermore, since we are arguing the minutia of the 22-250, there is about a 7gr difference between 22-250 and .308 when using Varget. Back to the topic, a 22-250 may have less pressure at the muzzle than a 10" 5.56 but it has a hell of a lot more gas volume that has to be captured. Most welded .223 cans may hold the pressure but they will have a lot more blow back (more fouling in a bolt gun) and will probably be louder. The exception would be a longer .223 can such as a 12th model OPS Inc can. |
Yep! Granted it was a bit crowded at the range, but my buddy who was shooting next to me was unaware that I had just shot 5 rounds next to him. You know about the subsonic and sonic ammo thing?..... It's not gonna happen with the 22-250, but it's pretty mild with a Tac-16 on my Rem VS 22-250. BTW... I'm told that the pressure of the 22-250 at 24" is less than a 223 at 10.5". That's pressure... not volume. I also run the same can on a 10.5" AR. 
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Thanks for the replies. Actually the .250-3000 Savage and the .250 Savage are exactly the same cartridge. The "3000" nomenclature to signify it as the first American cartrdige able to hit 3000fps was largely dropped over time and it just became the .250 Savage. My very first deer rifle was a well-worn Savage 99 stamped ".250-3000 Savage" that was made right around the turn of the century. It had a good number of notches on the stock and I took a good number of whitetails with it as well. I've always played around with the idea of having it professional refinished, but there's something that always stops me. Anyhow, enough of the history lesson! Thanks again! |
That's pretty similar to what my rifle would look like, except mine wears a Leupold 6.5-20x40 VXIII on top. Do you have any vids of shooting this rifle? What's the sound difference on this rifle vs. the 10.5" AR? |
I run an AAC M4-2000 on my 26" barreled Remington 700VS in .22-250. I checked with AAC before doing this and they said it would be fine. I had Noveske Rifleworks thread my barrel and install the M4-2000 flash hider. It is very pleasant to shoot and requires no hearing protection. Sounds a little bit less than a .22LR rifle to me. Also seems to tighten up the groups a bit when I use it. YMMV
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I don't have any video of shooting this one yet, but I do have some of the 10.5" AR. Nox's 10.5" AR with Tac16 The bolt gun is soooo much quieter without the port noise. It is hearing safe to me. I'll try get some videos at some point. |
Well..... FINALLY I got it out and shot it. Here is a video I kinda promised. Tac-16 vs SAS 30 cal can |
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