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Posted: 9/2/2011 1:33:13 PM EDT
| Why would there be no chrome lining in the dsa rifles? More so is it of concern if it were outside a lot and what sort of hit does the barrel life take? Would it be worth it to hunt down an argentine barrel? Or is it pointless to. Not going to get a stuck bullet if its humid out am I? Or burn it out in 5,000rnds? |
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I doubt the lack of chrome lining would really be an issue as long as you only shoot non-corrosive ammo
and clean after shooting. The best FAL barrels reportedly are the Austrian STG-58 barrels and those are not chromed. However I do prefer a chrome lined barrel on my FALs. It makes the barrel so easy to clean it's almost maintenance free. A chrome lined barrel should out live me, that way my grandkids can enjoy it too. |
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Why would there be no chrome lining in the dsa rifles? More so is it of concern if it were outside a lot and what sort of hit does the barrel life take? Would it be worth it to hunt down an argentine barrel? Or is it pointless to. Not going to get a stuck bullet if its humid out am I? Or burn it out in 5,000rnds? Because DSA-s barrels are made for American target shooters that spend A LOT of money on a rifle, and enjoy cleaning their rifle after a 20 round range session. Chrome lined barrels are made for a bazillion gun abusing soldiers in whatever country, shooting full auto, with unlimited quantities of crappy corrosive government issue FREE ammo, living in the worst conditions available. I'd wager that there's many more unlined barrels around, considering it's a relatively rare thing on civilian market guns. There are MANY unlined barrels that spend alot of time outdoors ever year in deer season. If you get a stuck bullet, it won't be from lack of chrome lining, humidity doesn't make bullets stick in barrels. The explosion behind the bullet usually prevents it from getting stuck. I would prefer a chrome lined barrel, simply for corrosion resistance, but I'm not hung up on it. The average joe, really just doesn't need it. |
| Hunting down a new Argy chrome lined barrel is not as hard as you think....SARCO |
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How many of us really shoot 1000+ rds of 308 in a year? Not many. I shoot a thousands rds a year of all different cals but 99% of us don't even shoot 1000 rds a year especially in 308.
I maybe shoot 5K of 556, 2K of pistol cal ammo and 1 to 2 K of 308 a year. So of those that are asking, ask yourself how much are you are going to shoot from your FAL. I have 2 M1As and 2 Para FALs to shoot with and I bet you I wont wear out the barrel for a long time. 
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Andrewsky, how can you say it is cutting corners? As pointed out above there have been many non-CL military rifles, like the M1 Garand, O3's, P-17, other FAL's, and the above mentioned Valmets. Simply put chrome lining costs more, and the process was not invented until the 1950's, don't know about "other fals" but you can bet if they could, those others you mentioned would have been designed to have the chrome lining. Why they did not do it in the M14? US pride and arrogance? Politicians making the decisions, not soldiers? Ignorance? Take a look at what went on with the M-16 in Vietnam........ |
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Andrewsky, how can you say it is cutting corners? As pointed out above there have been many non-CL military rifles, like the M1 Garand, O3's, P-17, other FAL's, and the above mentioned Valmets. Simply put chrome lining costs more, and the process was not invented until the 1950's, don't know about "other fals" but you can bet if they could, those others you mentioned would have been designed to have the chrome lining. Why they did not do it in the M14? US pride and arrogance? Politicians making the decisions, not soldiers? Ignorance? Take a look at what went on with the M-16 in Vietnam........ Actually, pretty much all USGI M14's have had chromium-plated bores since the beginning. I think some of the NM rifles are exceptions. These days, Springfield Armory Inc. barrels don't have the chrome-lining either. Also, chrome-lining was patented in 1932. |
| Question: i have an L1a1 built on an Imbel receiver with an Australian barrel. Is it possible to mount one of the Argy chrome lined barrels on this rifle and have it function correctly? I use a SUIT on the rifle, so I'm not concerned about the front and rear sight. |
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It's because DSA is cutting corners. There's no other way to say it really. I have not made a rifle purchase from DSA since right after the ban ended. Unless things have changed I am very curious about this comment. My SA-58 Para Congo was executed flawlessly- both mechanically and aesthetically. Easily in the top five weapon purchases I have ever made. I did get it with a steel type II lower as I do not care for the aluminum. Given endless funds I would have another variant from them. |
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Any rifle intended for hard use should be chrome lined.
Not because it gives slightly longer barrel life - which it does. Not because it makes the barrel easier to clean - which it does. Because it is FAR FAR FAR more corrosion resistant! The move to chrome lining was cemented in the US Military by the experience gained during the Pacific campaign in WW2. The M14 was produced from the start with a chrome lined bore and chamber. The M16 was only produced for a short time without a chrome lined chamber - and it had disastrous consequences and was quickly reversed. Chrome lining is going to be standard until something better is invented. The only exception being sniper rifles - and chrome lining technology is getting so good that is starting to change too. Modern chrome lining is not only very consistent - it is also relatively cheap and should not add much to the cost of the barrel. I have a DSA FAL that I love - but my FAL Nirvana would be hammer forged chrome lined 4150 barrels and chrome lined gas systems!!! 
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It's because DSA is cutting corners. There's no other way to say it really. I have not made a rifle purchase from DSA since right after the ban ended. Unless things have changed I am very curious about this comment. My SA-58 Para Congo was executed flawlessly- both mechanically and aesthetically. Easily in the top five weapon purchases I have ever made. I did get it with a steel type II lower as I do not care for the aluminum. Given endless funds I would have another variant from them. I don't know of any way they're cutting corners other than not chrome-lining. |
| . DSA's views (or at least their story) is chrome plating is hard to do properly and is expensive to do so and that it is not needed because it reduces accuracy. I wouldn't mind them not chrome plating their barrels if they would Nitride treat them instead. Also have seen many of DSA rifles not work at the range.... not sure what that means, but an interesting observation. |
| Chrome lining is not really a necessity unless you plan on sloshing though jungles with your rifle or don't plan on cleaning it after shooting. All my rifles are non chrome lined and I have yet to run into a problem because I always keep them cleaned and lubed. |
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