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2/26/2009 9:10:58 AM EDT
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My friend Tman's real name was Turner.  He grew up in Alabama, in a small town named Eutaw.  He went to college at the University of Alabama and graduated with a Degree in Civil Engineering.  His grades were so high that the University offered him a scholarship for a Master's degree and he took them up on it.  After earning his Master's in Civil Engineering, his grades were so high that the University offered him a scholarship for a Doctorate, but he decided he wanted to go to work.

He shortly took a job in the Engineering Department at the Texaco Refinery at Port Arthur, Texas.  That's where I met him, over 25 years ago.

I was talking to a friend in his office, when Turner came in and we met.  My friend George told Turner he needed a small screwdriver and Turner took one from his pocket and handed it to George.  I said, "That's a Smith and Wesson screw driver", and he said, "It sure is.  Are you a gun nut?"  I said I was and we started talking guns and it was the start of a long friendship.

Turner eventually became the Chief Civil Engineer at Texaco Port Arthur Refinery.  One of his last projects was to be in charge of building a new Catalytic Dewaxing Unit, a 100+ million dollar project, that he brought in early and under budget.  He then retired.

Turner was fascinated about the subject of History.  He was extremely well-read on the subject, and especially enjoyed American History and World Wars I and II.  He knew more about armor than anyone I've ever met, and could identify every type of armored vehicle Germany used in WWII.  Going to a military museum with him was an education.  We took a lot of trips to museums over the years.  It was something we both enjoyed.



Turner was the most knowledgeable firearms expert I ever met.  He knew what every gun we ever saw at a gun show was, and the complete history, if it had one.  He was a true expert on military rifles and pistols and could talk for hours about them.  I don't believe I ever caught him in a mistake about a firearm's history.

But his real skill was that he was an excellent self-taught gunsmith.  He could do as fine of a trigger job on a firearm as anyone I've ever seen.  Many of my pistols have trigger jobs that he did on them.  They are unbelievably smooth and crisp.

He could build small parts if needed, and make just about any semi-auto feed all rounds fed into it without a hitch.  His accurizing efforts always improved the groups on our C&R rifles.  His stock staining skills made our collections look like expensive rifles.



After I retired about 5 years ago, he and I went to the gun range at least twice a week, and sometimes three times.  We never tired of reloading ammo and shooting guns.  He was one of the few guys I've ever shot with that could usually out-shoot me with a pistol and sometimes with a rifle.

But mostly, we talked.  Or, as he contended, we argued.  He said that we could argue about a subject for an hour, and then switch sides to make it more interesting.  His motto was, "Sometimes wrong, but never in doubt."  But to give him credit, he didn't often argue about a subject that he didn't know what he was talking about.

When we started doing the Box O' Truth tests, he enjoyed doing them, but always complained to me about all the trouble it was to do them.  He was a good sport and was always proud if he caught a good picture for the post.



One of his main characteristics was that he did not "suffer fools gladly".  And when I posted a BOT segment and some guy that didn't know what he was talking about, started to argue with me about the results, it made Turner so mad he would about explode.  He often told me, "Why do you argue with those idiots!  Just quit doing the tests.  No one appreciates all the trouble and expense!"

But I always assured him that the vast majority of members were good guys and not to let the occasional idiot get to him.  But that's why he never posted much.  If he posted something, he knew what he was talking about, and had no patience with some kid arguing with him about it.  So, he seldom posted.

He was a wealthy man, but about as "frugal" as anyone I ever met.  As a result, he loved to find "good deals" at gun shows.  I benefited from this, as he could sniff out the best prices on guns better than anyone I've ever seen.  And, unlike me, he could remember what any firearm was worth at any time.  Most of my guns were great deals that he found for me.  We made just about every gun show around here and went to the SHOT Show many times.

Turner had a hereditary heart condition that he had to deal with for many years.  His wife kept him on a strict diet and made him walk with her twice a day, every day.  This probably extended his life for 10 to 15 years.

But it finally caught up with him a few weeks ago and he went into the hospital and finally was unable to fight off the inevitable.

He leaves a wife that he adored, a daughter and son-in-law that he loved, and one grandson, Chris, that was the pride of his life.

He was a good friend, and a great shooting buddy.  I will sorely miss him.



Goodbye, old buddy.  I sure miss you.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." - Capt. W. F. Call, Texas Ranger

http://www.theboxotruth.com/

2/26/2009 9:12:12 AM EDT
[#1]
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2/26/2009 9:12:17 AM EDT
[#2]
Dang.  So sorry O_P.  Prayers sent!!!
http://www.metalsaber.com/blog
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
2/26/2009 9:12:20 AM EDT
[#3]
I am so very sorry to hear of this.
Proud Owner of the Special Plaxico Buress Edition Glock Pistol in .40S&W! Serial # 1 of 100.
2/26/2009 9:12:24 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm sorry O-P
I can still fix this.

Wear the fox hat.

Proud member of "Ranstad's Militia"
2/26/2009 9:12:44 AM EDT
[#5]
2/26/2009 9:12:51 AM EDT
[#6]


He will be missed .
Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis
2/26/2009 9:12:54 AM EDT
[#7]
I felt like I knew him.  I am so sorry for your loss.  
A rare breed for sure.
Thanks Obama voters; now we are all FUCKED!

I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man,
nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.
2/26/2009 9:13:15 AM EDT
[#8]
Sorry for your loss O_P
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
2/26/2009 9:13:45 AM EDT
[#9]
Rest In Peace Tman
There is but one truth in the world and it is all yours. If you are not sure of it stay at home; but if you are sure don't look back and it will be your way.

Honored to be a "Proud Member of Ranstad's Militia"
2/26/2009 9:14:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Godspeed Tman...............
Sancho Panza..........stuck in reverse gear since 2007

"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"

IBEW LU 84
2/26/2009 9:14:52 AM EDT
[#11]
My condolences.
2/26/2009 9:15:01 AM EDT
[#12]
Sorry for your loss, OP.

I know you two had a lot of fun together.

 Boarslayer
2/26/2009 9:15:07 AM EDT
[#13]
R.I.P. T-Man.
2/26/2009 9:15:12 AM EDT
[#14]
my Condolences to you and his Family....
In May 2009 I will Be Graduating with a A.A.S. in Gunsmithing and will need a job....anyone? anyone?
2/26/2009 9:15:29 AM EDT
[#15]
What a great American and Great friend you had.

RIP
2/26/2009 9:15:37 AM EDT
[#16]
Sorry for your loss, Sir.
2/26/2009 9:16:02 AM EDT
[#17]


I was just kidding about AKs, UTG, Olympic Arms, 1911s, The Confederate Army, chinese fakecogs, and distressed ballcaps.
2/26/2009 9:16:03 AM EDT
[#18]
To the life he lived, the lessons he taught and the people he touched.
If, in any situation, you find yourself in agreement with the majority it is time to reconsider your opinion.
2/26/2009 9:16:20 AM EDT
[#19]
Condolences, O_P.  It's always tough to lose a friend.  Today arfcom has lost a pillar.  Even though I've never met him (or you) I still feel the loss.  Prayers to you and Tman's family.
2/26/2009 9:16:35 AM EDT
[#20]
Rip TMan.
2/26/2009 9:16:37 AM EDT
[#21]
rest in peace tman.

OP thanks to you and tman for the box o truth and all the "trouble" you put up with. please pass my sympathies to his family. he seemed like a man i could sit and learn a lot from.
TBS is an island of Sanity in a sea of bullshit.
jkstexas2001

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
If bigfoot makes it through 90 rounds of .223, 45 rounds of 9mm, and one sharp KaBar... he deserves my anal virginity.
2/26/2009 9:16:38 AM EDT
[#22]
Sorry to hear this. Good friends are hard to find. God blessed you with one.
2/26/2009 9:16:53 AM EDT
[#23]
R.I.P. Tman.
2/26/2009 9:16:54 AM EDT
[#24]
RIP T-Man

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - TJ, 1787

كافر
2/26/2009 9:16:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Ah, man.  I'm so sorry to hear this.

RIP, Turner.  My condolences to you, O_P, and his family.
2/26/2009 9:16:58 AM EDT
[#26]


Awwww dang.  RIP Tman.

Thank you for sharing that O_P.

Dang!
Worrying if the media coverage will be disastrous for the GOP is what makes the GOP a disaster. t-bird
2/26/2009 9:17:06 AM EDT
[#27]
My thoughts and prayers are with all who knew him.
2/26/2009 9:17:20 AM EDT
[#28]
Sorry to hear about your loss.... Sounds like he was one of a kind.
Assault is a behavior, not a device

You have only the rights you are willing to fight for

When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves
2/26/2009 9:17:30 AM EDT
[#29]


Prayers for his family and friends.

TACELRON THIRTY FOUR VAQ-34
Электронные войны Aгрессоры
2/26/2009 9:17:45 AM EDT
[#30]
"Never Knows Best"
GO BUCKS!
2/26/2009 9:17:49 AM EDT
[#31]
My condolences to his family and you.


The shooting community is poorer with his passing.
Made from the finest, heat treated, coat hanger wire there is.
2/26/2009 9:17:51 AM EDT
[#32]


True friends are very rare.
2/26/2009 9:17:58 AM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By BullDogger:
"We all go home or NOBODY goes home!"
2/26/2009 9:17:59 AM EDT
[#34]
The firearm community has loss another great guy.
2/26/2009 9:18:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Sorry for your, and our,  loss OP.  Good friends are hard to come by.
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” Sigmund Freud
2/26/2009 9:18:29 AM EDT
[#36]


I ain't askin' nobody for nothin', If I can't get it on my own. -CD
2/26/2009 9:19:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Sounds like a great American.  Jesus needed more like him up there and had to call him home.

Sorry for your loss.

2/26/2009 9:19:05 AM EDT
[#38]

My condolences. His efforts (and yours) helped educate us.

2/26/2009 9:19:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Hell of a tribute O_P. Brought tears to my eyes and made me think i had known him my whole life. He would be proud!





Prayers sent for you, and Tman's family.

SevenMaryThree: "
If you can't negotiate a 20% cash discount on vagina, you ain't shit. "

2/26/2009 9:19:21 AM EDT
[#40]
 Very sorry to hear another great guy has gone  on.... Your story about him says alot.... WarDawg
2/26/2009 9:19:29 AM EDT
[#41]
sorry man
2/26/2009 9:19:36 AM EDT
[#42]
So sorry to hear that O_P.  He will surely be missed.
2/26/2009 9:19:40 AM EDT
[#43]
Oh no.



This isn't a democracy, it's a cheerocracy !
2/26/2009 9:19:52 AM EDT
[#44]
Godspeed Tman.

We'll see you on the other side. Save a spot on the line for us.
Regarding DLoken: Retards are tenacious. Ever see one make macaroni art? They go at it like a fucking machine, man. ~~ Swingset.
2/26/2009 9:20:04 AM EDT
[#45]
 Thoughts and prayers...
2/26/2009 9:20:27 AM EDT
[#46]
RIP Turner
11/04/08...THE DAY 53% OF VOTERS DIVIDED BY ZERO

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoJUOoWF-M
2/26/2009 9:20:31 AM EDT
[#47]
Rest in peace.  
2/26/2009 9:20:31 AM EDT
[#48]
I'm sorry to hear that, O_P.  tman sounds like he was one hell of a guy.
Texas -
Bigger than France.

There are no 'time outs' in a gun fight. Fix it or die.
2/26/2009 9:20:56 AM EDT
[#49]
My sincere condolences, both to you, and to Tman's family.





UH-1E + Beaucoup 7.62 = Hover Cover
2/26/2009 9:20:57 AM EDT
[#50]
Sorry to hear about year friend.
"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."
C.S. Lewis

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