[ARCHIVED THREAD] - illegitimate rape insurance (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 12/12/2013 6:41:41 PM EDT
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Rape insurance? Is that really a thing? Well, yes, though the anti-abortion legislators in Michigan who passed a law Wednesday making it necessary don’t really call it that. They call it the “Abortion Insurance Opt-Out Act.” From now on in Michigan, all public health insurance plans and most private ones will not be able to automatically include coverage for abortion services in their comprehensive policies. Women will have to purchase separate riders in order to be covered for any sort of elective abortion. It doesn’t matter to the Michigan Legislature if the pregnancy is wanted but the baby has a medical condition incompatible with life. It doesn’t matter to the Michigan Legislature whether a pregnancy is the result of rape or incest. latimes.com |
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All the law really means is that every payer doesn't have to subsidize the cost through their insurance. It's just like what everyone is complaining about obamacare. I wonder if this conflicts with obamacare. Maybe a SCOTUS showdown: illegitimate rape insurance v obamacare! Just in time for fall 2016? |
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Seriously Republicans. When the whole NSA thing came out all you had to do was, absolutely nothing until 2016 and you were fucking IN. That was it. It was that simple. Stop fucking around with your social meddling. What about the liberal's social meddling? You ok with that? |
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Seriously Republicans. When the whole NSA thing came out all you had to do was, absolutely nothing until 2016 and you were fucking IN. That was it. It was that simple. Stop fucking around with your social meddling. The fact they never pursued this AT ALL means that they, like everybody else, were in on it and benefitting from it in some way. |
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Quoted: What about the liberal's social meddling? You ok with that? Quoted: Quoted: Seriously Republicans. When the whole NSA thing came out all you had to do was, absolutely nothing until 2016 and you were fucking IN. That was it. It was that simple. Stop fucking around with your social meddling. What about the liberal's social meddling? You ok with that? In which the social conservatives attempt to deflect responsibility for the policies they enable.  |
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What about the liberal's social meddling? You ok with that? Quoted:
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Seriously Republicans. When the whole NSA thing came out all you had to do was, absolutely nothing until 2016 and you were fucking IN. That was it. It was that simple. Stop fucking around with your social meddling. What about the liberal's social meddling? You ok with that? It is expected that the liberals will try to sabotage republican political hopes. When the republicans do it also it becomes frustrating |
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Quoted: why is abortion even covered by insurance anyway? it's not a health issue 99% of the time. it's an "oops" issue. That probably sounded like a really good argument in your head. If I smash my hand with a fucking hammer tomorrow, I'm pretty sure my insurance will cover it. Oops. |
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I applaud them for doing this. And of course the narrative is spun and the simpleton mouth breathers fall for it. Good move on their part calling it "rape insurance". I wish we had some people on our side with balls and skills to think and move like that. This. Lol, even look at all the arfcommers foaming at the mouth. From the article "Oh, and by the way, a woman who is already pregnant is not allowed to purchase the rider. Too bad for her! She should have known she was going to be raped and get pregnant!" No shit, you can't buy insurance after the fact for something. Can you buy full coverage on your truck after you totaled it or flood damage for your house after it was hit by hurricane Sandy and have it covered under your new insurance? I'm going to by $1,000 of insurance so they'll cover my $20,000 operation tomorrow. NO. It's about not forcing the taxpayers (me) to pay for other people's abortions. What spin. |
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why is abortion even covered by insurance anyway? it's not a health issue 99% of the time. it's an "oops" issue. Pregnancy is a physiological condition that is often accompanied by minor symptoms, and sometimes severe complications. Physicians are usually sought out for assistance in dealing with pregnancy and other physiological conditions. 'Health insurance' is often used to deal with payments associated with such assistance. |
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That probably sounded like a really good argument in your head. If I smash my hand with a fucking hammer tomorrow, I'm pretty sure my insurance will cover it. Oops. Quoted:
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why is abortion even covered by insurance anyway? it's not a health issue 99% of the time. it's an "oops" issue. That probably sounded like a really good argument in your head. If I smash my hand with a fucking hammer tomorrow, I'm pretty sure my insurance will cover it. Oops. Your hand is broken and needs care. A fetus has developed and needs.... an abortion? I'm morally against abortion, but think it should be legal for the first trimester (and only first). But come on, the mental gymnastics people use to call it anything but ripping out a baby from the mother's womb are pathetic. Next, they'll be calling it "preventative birth treatment" or some other bullshit. |
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Pregnancy is a physiological condition that is often accompanied by minor symptoms, and sometimes severe complications. Physicians are usually sought out for assistance in dealing with pregnancy and other physiological conditions. 'Health insurance' is often used to deal with payments associated with such assistance. Quoted:
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why is abortion even covered by insurance anyway? it's not a health issue 99% of the time. it's an "oops" issue. Pregnancy is a physiological condition that is often accompanied by minor symptoms, and sometimes severe complications. Physicians are usually sought out for assistance in dealing with pregnancy and other physiological conditions. 'Health insurance' is often used to deal with payments associated with such assistance. There are legitimate reasons for getting an abortion. Most cases are just "oops LOL not ready for this so BRB lemme get it taken care of" So tell me how aborting an unwanted fetus is healthcare related.....? I'm just not understanding. |
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There are legitimate reasons for getting an abortion. Most cases are just "oops LOL not ready for this so BRB lemme get it taken care of" So tell me how aborting an unwanted fetus is healthcare related.....? I'm just not understanding. Quoted:
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why is abortion even covered by insurance anyway? it's not a health issue 99% of the time. it's an "oops" issue. Pregnancy is a physiological condition that is often accompanied by minor symptoms, and sometimes severe complications. Physicians are usually sought out for assistance in dealing with pregnancy and other physiological conditions. 'Health insurance' is often used to deal with payments associated with such assistance. There are legitimate reasons for getting an abortion. Most cases are just "oops LOL not ready for this so BRB lemme get it taken care of" So tell me how aborting an unwanted fetus is healthcare related.....? I'm just not understanding. The issue of pre-born child murder is one issue. Lets set that aside for the moment. Having physiological symptoms, some undesired, that are best treated with medical procedures, performed by a medical professional, suggests the category of 'healthcare' to me |
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I think it's probably wrong and would never have my wife or any previous relationship get one, but at the end of the day, it doesn't effect me, so I really don't give a damn.
I am not happy to be paying for other people's abortion, public workers, government sponsored health insurance, ect. Go buy your own abortion insurance or pay for the damn thing out of pocket. |
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Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. |
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Quoted: So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion.  This is not a child.  See any differences? Words, their meanings are important. Grammatik macht frei. |
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Quoted: So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. He says, as he helps ensures liberal victory. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hXzsOPwHMPI/ULjGqrjVaoI/AAAAAAAAJBM/YPeaCp6LBQY/s1600/Baby+I+have+a+surprise+for+you,+its+poop.jpg This is not a child. http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/10/27/55025/zygote.jpg?t=20111027092220 See any differences? Words, their meanings are important. Grammatik macht frei. |
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The fact they never pursued this AT ALL means that they, like everybody else, were in on it and benefitting from it in some way. Quoted:
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Seriously Republicans. When the whole NSA thing came out all you had to do was, absolutely nothing until 2016 and you were fucking IN. That was it. It was that simple. Stop fucking around with your social meddling. The fact they never pursued this AT ALL means that they, like everybody else, were in on it and benefitting from it in some way. I doubt that less and less, the more of it I see. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. He says, as he helps ensures liberal victory. |
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Quoted: He says, as he helps ensures liberal victory. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. He says, as he helps ensures liberal victory. Compromise? You hold strong on a lost issue and hand them everything. There's no compromise involved, unless you support the rest of their agenda. |
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Quoted: This is a child. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hXzsOPwHMPI/ULjGqrjVaoI/AAAAAAAAJBM/YPeaCp6LBQY/s1600/Baby+I+have+a+surprise+for+you,+its+poop.jpg This is not a child. http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/10/27/55025/zygote.jpg?t=20111027092220 See any differences? Words, their meanings are important. Grammatik macht frei. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hXzsOPwHMPI/ULjGqrjVaoI/AAAAAAAAJBM/YPeaCp6LBQY/s1600/Baby+I+have+a+surprise+for+you,+its+poop.jpg This is not a child. http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/10/27/55025/zygote.jpg?t=20111027092220 See any differences? Words, their meanings are important. Grammatik macht frei. |
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I would love to pick and choose things that I'm covered for. I have little use for abortion, gynecologists, breast exams, birth control, etc... why should I pay?
I will not need those things in the course of my life and will impose no costs to the system for them. Making me pay for them, as under obamacare, is wrong and just another attempt to get me to pay for shit that buys Dem votes. I'm willing to bet that it was framed that way and the LAtimes went full retard with it. |
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You are not the first to justify the murder of millions by classifying them as subhuman. Just as you belive it they did too. I take offense to the charge that abortion is the murder of babies. If you want to call it the murder of zygotes or fetuses, then so be it. They are NOT babies. Again, words have definitions, and they are important. Quoted:
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Whatever it takes to make sure we lose more elections. So let children be murderd in order to win elections. Keeping it classy are you? You know how the Republican party was started it was by people who fought the social issue of their time. You think we should abandon principles in order to get elected when we do that we are worse than those we oppose. There are some on this site that will stand aside when innocent people are being butcherd as long as their guu gets a shot at winning an election. Elections bought with the blood of children is disgusting and damnit those who are alright with it are no differnt than liberals. No one who truly loves liberty will support or passivly sit by against abbortion. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hXzsOPwHMPI/ULjGqrjVaoI/AAAAAAAAJBM/YPeaCp6LBQY/s1600/Baby+I+have+a+surprise+for+you,+its+poop.jpg This is not a child. http://scm-l3.technorati.com/11/10/27/55025/zygote.jpg?t=20111027092220 See any differences? Words, their meanings are important. Grammatik macht frei. I take offense to the charge that abortion is the murder of babies. If you want to call it the murder of zygotes or fetuses, then so be it. They are NOT babies. Again, words have definitions, and they are important. Murder of unique human individuals? ETA: However, it is currently a huge losing issue so that problem can be tackled later. It should probably be tackled more from a persuasive angle than legislative though. |
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Sorry but why should every policy cover this? Why is it better to eliminate choice from the consumer? Because consumers are fucking ignorant. Hell, those morans in new york used to buy 30 round magazines! 
It wasn't until the government stepped in that they realized how awesome 7 round mags are. |