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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:34:08 AM EST
I'm guessing Brown had the slide a bit out of battery.
That's some scary shit to think about. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:46:58 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:51:09 AM EST
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So if he had a striker fired piston the gentle giants would had finally ripped it from the officer racked the slide and shot the officer?
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Posted: 11/25/2014 12:56:05 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:00:10 AM EST
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What pistol was he carrying?
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:03:16 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Really? Clear your Glock, and pull the slide back about 1/4". Take note of the position of the barrel. It should visibly drop a little. Pull the trigger, and the striker will still release, but it may or may not make good contact with the primer in that position. Release the slide, and the trigger is still dead. With a DAO or DA/SA gun, you can keep trying without doing anything to re-cock the gun. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:04:07 AM EST
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What pistol was he carrying? The pic is buried in the riot thread. It was a Sig P226/P229 in .40. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:04:30 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull ^This, in spades! |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:07:07 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:15:43 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Not if it was out of battery like his sig was 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:21:29 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull If it was an ammunition issue and it was a Glock, there wouldn't be rioting in the streets right now. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:23:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Then The Hague would have charged the PD with war crimes and use of WMDs.  |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:24:04 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Not if it was out of battery like his sig was I love my Glocks and am carrying one on duty right now. But yeah, it won't fire with the slide pushed back. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:34:07 AM EST
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Most guns won't, but at least Glock has a short reset when the slide is pushed out of battery.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:38:00 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Out of battery due to the bad guy pressing against the muzzle? You WANT your gun to fire out of battery? Oh, wait. You're talking about the Glock Grenade option. Blow the bad guy up! I SEE NOW! |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:42:12 AM EST
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Sig 229 in 40
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:09:59 AM EST
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So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:21:58 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull ^This, in spades! What you did there...I see it. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:33:26 AM EST
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So the lesson here is we should all carry hammerless revolvers. 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 2:45:59 AM EST
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As a Glock guy this has always been a concern. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 3:32:12 AM EST
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I may or may not have just grabbed a CZ75 P07 off buds after reading this thread.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:14:06 AM EST
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So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers. Grab the cylinder on a revolver, if it can't turn they cant shoot you. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:14:34 AM EST
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I may or may not have just grabbed a CZ75 P07 off buds after reading this thread. I got 2 of them, and a P09, you chose well
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:21:09 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. In BROAD DAYLIGHT. Oh, the horror. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:22:16 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:24:19 AM EST
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Well, you might be able force a Glock slide into battery (assuming use of both hands) and get a shot off--even with the bad guy leaning on the gun. Obviously the slide would not cycle in this situation because you'd be holding it shut. This has even been taught in some classes. Not sure how it would go with a hammer fired gun like a classic Sig.
I'll take Glock for the win here. 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 4:48:26 AM EST
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what is meant by double strike?
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:07:14 AM EST
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I may or may not have just grabbed a CZ75 P07 off buds after reading this thread. You're gonna love that gun. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:09:40 AM EST
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No shot two times and no clearance drill? Fail.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:14:55 AM EST
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Interesting.
I do have one DA/SA pistol - a sig P226. Had a beretta before that , I will always have at least one pistol like this just to maintain familiarity with that type of action. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:15:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:40:10 AM EST
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No shot two times and no clearance drill? Fail. Hard to do a clearance drill when you have some big bastard trying to take your gun. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:48:05 AM EST
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Walther P99.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:52:26 AM EST
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what is meant by double strike? |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:52:56 AM EST
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Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. 
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:55:10 AM EST
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what is meant by double strike? When you pull the trigger, it doesn't fire, and you can pull it again without having to rack the slide. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:55:16 AM EST
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Though this thread will go on and on, the first guy to say his slide was out of battery already solved the mystery.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:56:21 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull Glock would have blown up and killed them both. Not left any witnesses in a 500' radius either. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:57:15 AM EST
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Should have had a 1911. The concussive force of the hammer fall alone would have blown him out of the vehicle.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:01:41 AM EST
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I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:05:10 AM EST
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I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances. If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:08:42 AM EST
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Though this thread will go on and on, the first guy to say his slide was out of battery already solved the mystery. This. I carry a SIG for work but would take a Glock over it any time. Having said that, it's not the arrow, it's the Indian. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:09:30 AM EST
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As a Glock guy this has always been a concern. Myself as well. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:10:16 AM EST
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If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances. If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode. Yes, you can also get something between the hammer and the frame in single action. I contend both of those things are much more difficult to do than push a semi auto out of battery. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:22:15 AM EST
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^This, in spades! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull ^This, in spades! A Glock out of battery will still fire? Never knew that. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:25:55 AM EST
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull ^This, in spades! you be racist. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:43:29 AM EST
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No shot two times and no clearance drill? Fail. How are you going to do a clearance drill, with a bad guy holding on to your gun??? This isn't commando day at the range, this is real life. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:48:03 AM EST
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Walther P99. Is this what Wilson was carrying? |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:48:46 AM EST
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Walther P99. Is this what Wilson was carrying? He was apparently carrying a Sig P229 in .40 sw. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:50:35 AM EST
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A Glock out of battery will still fire? Never knew that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol. Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull ^This, in spades! A Glock out of battery will still fire? Never knew that. It doesn't. You did not know it because it is not true. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 7:53:30 AM EST
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So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers. I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand. Revolvers are more reliable than autos. |
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