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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:27:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Pretty surprised the poll results are a positive as they are. Expected more hate for HK sights.
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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:30:37 PM EDT
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They're good sights, why would you expect more hate for them?
The diopter sights work really well for fast sight pictures...I haven't tried them out in a precision kind of role, but then again...for that, I've got optics. For pick up a rifle and make quick hits at distance, the HK style sights are great. |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:39:04 PM EDT
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They're good sights, why would you expect more hate for them? The diopter sights work really well for fast sight pictures...I haven't tried them out in a precision kind of role, but then again...for that, I've got optics. For pick up a rifle and make quick hits at distance, the HK style sights are great. Diopter sights are common on small bore competition rifles, they are very precise if made right. Kharn Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:42:06 PM EDT
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For pick up a rifle and make quick hits at distance, the HK style sights are great. Which seems perfect for the 8.5" 300 blk build I want to do. Need to get my stuff together and build it. Only thing I have so far are the sights. 
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Posted: 4/23/2015 8:48:07 PM EDT
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I put them on my SIG551-A1
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:36:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:39:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Don't like HK sights at all, much prefer AR sights.
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:44:22 PM EDT
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I have the RTG ones but they are about 1/2 inch too low to use. I figure they were made for a upper that had a raised rail on the top. Impossible to use on a regular AR upper without a riser or cranking your head to like up the sights. I like the sights and had them on my 9mm AR but ended up taking them off for some normal ones.
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Posted: 4/23/2015 10:59:19 PM EDT
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I really like the style, and if I ever went with a non-optic flat top AR, I would definitely use them.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 8:34:15 AM EDT
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I took in a PWS Diablo upper on a trade that had them, and took the sights off before selling the upper. They now live on my 11.5" upper. I do want to swap out to the MP5 drum though, a larger aperture would be better for me than choosing between tiny apertures and the weird V shape. Just a more familiar sight picture.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 8:36:13 AM EDT
[#11]
Not a fan.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 8:39:18 AM EDT
[#12]
There's one in the SBR Forum that's different than your standard AR-based build. Overall look is very reminiscent of an MP5SD with the H&K sights, shroud, side-charger, and collapsing stock.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_51/444529_New_SBR_Build.html I like the look. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:01:39 AM EDT
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I bought some Centurion C4's a LONG time ago for about $90 from Rainier or somewhere on closeout. They are my favorite sites on any of my EBR's.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:05:01 AM EDT
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From what I've been told is that Centurion no longer makes these diopter sights, is there an alternative?
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:37:32 AM EDT
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I picked up some Chaos Saiga12 low sights for my .45 SBR build, pretty sweet, but no fine elevation adjustment and the rear is way high compared to the front.
So I sunk the rear, tigged up the front post, and when i go to sight it in with the #2 aperture I'll file the post down until it's good. Then I'll see what ranges the other apertures zero at. 
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:40:53 AM EDT
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I picked up some Chaos Saiga12 low sights for my .45 SBR build, pretty sweet, but no fine elevation adjustment and the rear is way high compared to the front. So I sunk the rear, tigged up the front post, and when i go to sight it in with the #2 aperture I'll file the post down until it's good. Then I'll see what ranges the other apertures zero at. http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m348/chaoshadley/DSC04470.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150121_204603_612.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150127_244237_922.jpg I can't tell you how much of an effect it will have because I won't bother with the calculations for your set-up... but if you're having to change the front sight in any capacity you're going to lose what makes the HK sights great to some degree. I'd find another solution if you can. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 9:46:18 AM EDT
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I can't tell you how much of an effect it will have because I won't bother with the calculations for your set-up... but if you're having to change the front sight in any capacity you're going to lose what makes the HK sights great to some degree. I'd find another solution if you can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up some Chaos Saiga12 low sights for my .45 SBR build, pretty sweet, but no fine elevation adjustment and the rear is way high compared to the front. So I sunk the rear, tigged up the front post, and when i go to sight it in with the #2 aperture I'll file the post down until it's good. Then I'll see what ranges the other apertures zero at. http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m348/chaoshadley/DSC04470.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150121_204603_612.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150127_244237_922.jpg I can't tell you how much of an effect it will have because I won't bother with the calculations for your set-up... but if you're having to change the front sight in any capacity you're going to lose what makes the HK sights great to some degree. I'd find another solution if you can. I'm only initially tuning it to one aperture, because there is no rear elevation adjustment built into the sight. There is no interchangeable front post available for the Chaos sight like with standard HK. All other options, like actual HK416 sights that cost 3x as much, will sit too high on the rail. The work is already done, it took me all of 5 min to TIG up the front sight post and reprofile it. Right now the front post and the rear #2 orifice are parallel to the bore, then I can shim the rear or file the front for a 25yd zero. Remember, we're talking a 5" .45ACP here, not a rifle. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:00:00 AM EDT
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I'm only initially tuning it to one aperture, because there is no rear elevation adjustment. There is no interchangeable front post available for the Chaos sight like with standard HK. All other options, like actual HK416 sights that cost 3x as much, will sit too high on the rail. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but HK sights don't even have replaceable front sights that are of different heights, as this would totally defeat the purpose of the benefit of their style of sight as I explained earlier in this thread. It sounds like Chaos sights are just about appearing to be the HK style sights and not the same in function. edited after your edit: Yeah, the difference will be minimal on your rifle. I just wanted to make sure you knew what was up and could find a better option if you wanted to. That's a slick lookin' gun. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:09:47 AM EDT
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I picked up some Chaos Saiga12 low sights for my .45 SBR build, pretty sweet, but no fine elevation adjustment and the rear is way high compared to the front. So I sunk the rear, tigged up the front post, and when i go to sight it in with the #2 aperture I'll file the post down until it's good. Then I'll see what ranges the other apertures zero at. http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m348/chaoshadley/DSC04470.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150121_204603_612.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150127_244237_922.jpg Not gonna lie, I felt it move a little. Build details? |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:15:40 AM EDT
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Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but HK sights don't even have replaceable front sights that are of different heights, as this would totally defeat the purpose of the benefit of their style of sight as I explained earlier in this thread. It sounds like Chaos sights are just about appearing to be the HK style sights and not the same in function. edited after your edit: Yeah, the difference will be minimal on your rifle. I just wanted to make sure you knew what was up and could find a better option if you wanted to. That's a slick lookin' gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm only initially tuning it to one aperture, because there is no rear elevation adjustment. There is no interchangeable front post available for the Chaos sight like with standard HK. All other options, like actual HK416 sights that cost 3x as much, will sit too high on the rail. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but HK sights don't even have replaceable front sights that are of different heights, as this would totally defeat the purpose of the benefit of their style of sight as I explained earlier in this thread. It sounds like Chaos sights are just about appearing to be the HK style sights and not the same in function. edited after your edit: Yeah, the difference will be minimal on your rifle. I just wanted to make sure you knew what was up and could find a better option if you wanted to. That's a slick lookin' gun. As for the Chaos sights, yes, they are only HK "style" and not full HK function. The rear windage adjustment is loosening a screw and sliding the sight body left to right. As I said, there is no elevation adjustment in the rear drum, it's just a fixed screw, as there's not much room for a spindle/screw setup. The only reason I had to raise the front post is because they were not on the same plane, due to the intended mounting on the longer Chaos rail and the nature of the Saiga 12. I was looking for diopter sights that were as low as possible, and I don't intend on having to make any sight adjustments after the inital zero. If I were to use diopter sights on a rifle, i would not use the Chaos sights. ETA: I kinda wanted a set of MP-7 sights. Super low pistol-style sights when folded. $300 / set 
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:18:28 AM EDT
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Not gonna lie, I felt it move a little. Build details? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I picked up some Chaos Saiga12 low sights for my .45 SBR build, pretty sweet, but no fine elevation adjustment and the rear is way high compared to the front. So I sunk the rear, tigged up the front post, and when i go to sight it in with the #2 aperture I'll file the post down until it's good. Then I'll see what ranges the other apertures zero at. http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m348/chaoshadley/DSC04470.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150121_204603_612.jpg http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/AR-45/IMG_20150127_244237_922.jpg Not gonna lie, I felt it move a little. Build details? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/666635_Folding_DI_45_SBR__Round_2_.html&page=1 |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:23:34 AM EDT
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I actually prefer the HK style front site to the A2. Never used the rear diopter sight. Should be good to go! Same. I like the curved in front sight, but prefer the A2 or similar rear for a BUIS. |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:31:23 AM EDT
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As for the Chaos sights, yes, they are only HK "style" and not full HK function. The rear windage adjustment is loosening a screw and sliding the sight body left to right. As I said, there is no elevation adjustment in the rear drum, it's just a fixed screw, as there's not much room for a spindle/screw setup. The only reason I had to raise the front post is because they were not on the same plane, due to the intended mounting on the longer Chaos rail and the nature of the Saiga 12. I was looking for diopter sights that were as low as possible, and I don't intend on having to make any sight adjustments after the inital zero. If I were to use diopter sights on a rifle, i would not use the Chaos sights. ETA: I kinda wanted a set of MP-7 sights. Super low pistol-style sights when folded. $300 / set http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/catalog/mp7a1sights-11_561_detail.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm only initially tuning it to one aperture, because there is no rear elevation adjustment. There is no interchangeable front post available for the Chaos sight like with standard HK. All other options, like actual HK416 sights that cost 3x as much, will sit too high on the rail. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but HK sights don't even have replaceable front sights that are of different heights, as this would totally defeat the purpose of the benefit of their style of sight as I explained earlier in this thread. It sounds like Chaos sights are just about appearing to be the HK style sights and not the same in function. edited after your edit: Yeah, the difference will be minimal on your rifle. I just wanted to make sure you knew what was up and could find a better option if you wanted to. That's a slick lookin' gun. As for the Chaos sights, yes, they are only HK "style" and not full HK function. The rear windage adjustment is loosening a screw and sliding the sight body left to right. As I said, there is no elevation adjustment in the rear drum, it's just a fixed screw, as there's not much room for a spindle/screw setup. The only reason I had to raise the front post is because they were not on the same plane, due to the intended mounting on the longer Chaos rail and the nature of the Saiga 12. I was looking for diopter sights that were as low as possible, and I don't intend on having to make any sight adjustments after the inital zero. If I were to use diopter sights on a rifle, i would not use the Chaos sights. ETA: I kinda wanted a set of MP-7 sights. Super low pistol-style sights when folded. $300 / set http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/catalog/mp7a1sights-11_561_detail.jpg Me too, but $300? Nope |
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Posted: 4/24/2015 10:33:40 AM EDT
[#24]
I have the HK style front sights on several of my ARs, but have never tried the rear sight. Someday I would like to give one a try on my AR 22lr pistol.
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Posted: 4/24/2015 11:36:31 AM EDT
[#25]
HK sights are the best.
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Posted: 4/27/2015 5:22:02 PM EDT
[#26]
Post Range day bump. Loved them on the 5.56 pistol. They'll be going on a 300 blk pistol ASAP.
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