[ARCHIVED THREAD] - stoeger coach guns (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/7/2016 1:00:23 AM EDT
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I'm thinking about ordering a stoeger coach gun from buds.
I'm seeing a little bit of info saying these can have problems. does anyone know if the double trigger guns are more reliable than the single trigger ones or vice versa? who has one? |
| Funny story, A buddy of mine had one of these side by side double barrels in 12ga and we had this life size plastic Santa Claus (no idea where he got that) anyway I put 2 slugs in and tried my best to pull both triggers at the exact same time. What ended up happening was a slight delay in the shots and some massive recoil. One shot was perfect center in the chest and the second due to the muzzle rise was right in the forehead. |
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns.
the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. |
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Me and jack Daniels are going to discuss coach guns over the next few hours. By morning I bet one of us orders one. 
Edit - the black hardwood/nickel finish looks fucking awesome. Jack's a sneaky sumbitch,you got to keep an eye on him,or both or all three of him. 
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I have a Cattleman too. Dammit OP, you aren't making this easy for me. 
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the only supreme model buds has is the single trigger version and I don't want a unreliable POS, so I need the double trigger one Quoted:
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http://www.stoegerindustries.com/coach-gun-supreme-shotgun Model-31481 is what you seek gentleman the only supreme model buds has is the single trigger version and I don't want a unreliable POS, so I need the double trigger one http://www.shydasoutdoorcenter.com/stoeger-coach-gun-supreme-12-ga-20-bbl-double-trigger.html |
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the only supreme model buds has is the single trigger version and I don't want a unreliable POS, so I need the double trigger one Quoted:
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http://www.stoegerindustries.com/coach-gun-supreme-shotgun Model-31481 is what you seek gentleman the only supreme model buds has is the single trigger version and I don't want a unreliable POS, so I need the double trigger one I've not had a problem with a single trigger model. But you wants what you wants I understand, I'll take a single trigger and changeable chokes over a double trigger |
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. |
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I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. Quoted:
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. |
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I have one of the JSW2000's..
I don't think your supposed to shoot slugs in it..... It will fire 3 inch magnums though..... I keep it behind my truck seat with one 3 inch #4 buck, and one 3inch #1 buck. I put over 60 pellets down range with one pull of the triggers. |
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I guess I should add that I think of it as a single shot, fire and forget weapon against a single threat.. Then I would transition to the Glock.
Against multiple bad guys, I suppose I could be conservative and fire one shot at a time. I do keep a couple of boxes of shells in case I did get the chance to reload. |
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http://www.stoegerindustries.com/coach-gun-supreme-shotgun Model-31481 is what you seek gentleman the only supreme model buds has is the single trigger version and I don't want a unreliable POS, so I need the double trigger one http://www.shydasoutdoorcenter.com/stoeger-coach-gun-supreme-12-ga-20-bbl-double-trigger.html Shit, you may have just ruined my life..... speed |
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the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. Quoted:
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side at all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? |
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If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side? At all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? Quoted:
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side? At all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? I don't. I just would rather have the more practical of the 2 if given the choice. |
| No problems with the double trigger version. Love the 20ga version its short and light perfect for hunting in thick brush. It's so short I've been asked if it's even legal I had to get out the tape measure to convince them the game wardens all seemed to know already though. |
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Funny. I was going to ask a question about their Condors as I just won one in a raffle I 110% forgot about.
That now makes a Benelli SBEII, Stoeger 2000, and now a Stoeger Condor -- is that a sign?  yeah, after this I think I might have to get a short barreled O/U maverick has one I was looking at, but it comes with hideous rails and a front sight post the stoeger might have to me my pick then too |
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I own two. One in 20 and the other in .410. We mostly use them for some short range plinking at a 4th of July picnic every year. We set up a reactive gallery and walk people through a series of water jugs, clay birds, empty bottles and bad fruit. The guns have held up wonderfully over the years (both are about 15 yo now). Both are the two trigger design. They both did require a little bit of a break- in. When new, the actions would often bind on a fired shell. I had an SASS gunsmith give the 20 a tweeking and it was fine after that. The .410 corrected itself after a couple hundred shells. Both run perfect now. If the action does bind, do not try and force it open. Instead, firmly rap on the bottom of the receiver just behind the forend a couple times. I believe most of the time, it is the firing pins sticking.
These are short range guns and the barrels may or may not be regulated to any predictable range so you have to experiment with different POA. |
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If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side at all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? Quoted:
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side at all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? That reminds me of the scene in "Zombieland" where they are trying to do a 21 gun salute to Bill Murray. The one guy has a double barrel and has to keep reloading. It pisses off his partners. LOL |
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If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side at all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? Quoted:
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Well, the more I look into it it sounds like the double trigger design is inherently more reliable than single trigger guns. the issue I keep seeing is that the right side of single trigger guns will light strike 50% of the time but the left is 100% reliable. They also have issues binding when opened. I have seen no indication of this being an issue with the double trigger variants. I was trying to decide between the century coach gun and the stoeger. (my marlin 336 and uberti cattleman need a buddy) the stoeger just seems to be the more practical of the two in real world applications. I bought the 20ga century from sg. Wood is good,action is stiff but started loosening a bit more rounds I shot,nice large buttpad and real reasonable cost wise. the big downside of the CIA guns are that you have to cock each hammer manually. if you want a gun thatcan be used for HD that kinda kills it. it's already slow to load. that makes it twice as slow. If you want one for HD why the hell are you using a side by side at all?BD] It is 2016, your using a design that predates metallic cartridges. If you insist on a shotgun at least get a decent modern (kinda) design like an 870 or Mossberg 500, or better yet a Benelli M1 or M4. Your running around with something Doc Holliday would recognize. Even better, just get an AR. What advantage does an unnecessarily heavy and unwieldy (because of the extra barrel, which was needed back in the days of non repeating firearms, but is a hilarious anachronism now) weapon with only 2 shots before a slow and awkward reload have over something lighter, more manuverable, and with far more rounds? Elderly shooters, anyone with weak hands, because of arthritis or MS, people who have difficulty racking slides or loading cartridges into magazines. For them, revolvers and break downs offer reasonable alternatives. An 80 year old with a snake charmer is still more dangerous than an 80 year old with a frying pan. There will come a time when most ARFcommers are too frail to operate most of their semi autos. Plan accordingly. |
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My buddy owned two of them and I had one. All were the double trigger models and were reliable. The coach gun was my buddies primary shotgun and he used it for sporting clays and hunting so the gun saw a ton of use. They kick like a mule with anything heavier than a target load, are really loud, and the fixed choke models are pretty useless as a bird gun past 20yds. It is possible to fire both barrels at the exact same time but it's difficult and you usually end up firing one right after the other.
Only real problem we had with them was the forearms would break. All three of the guns had the forearms split in two and mine was hardly ever shot. |
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love my dog eared coach gun.
go shoot targets in the desert (coffee cans, soda cans) and before we leave everyone shoots the already shot up targets with the shotgun. More people walk away raving about the fun they had shooting the double barrel than all the other guns. cases of rifle and pistol ammo get over looked for 20 bucks worth of shotgun ammo the cz version is really nice but a 350 - 500 dollar version will be just as fun. simple home defense especially for a senior (20 gauge) "did you bring the greeners" |
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